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Thread: Front Master Cylinder Failure

Created on: 05/08/11 02:07 PM

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Hub


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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/05/13 9:19 AM

Danial,

You said: "... in terms of effective lever travel. In case of accossato - longer distince is needed for declutching (almost full pressing required to stop wheel)" In case you really start to cook the oil in the lines? They sort of boil there in the caliper you start to hammer some braking. Then all of a sudden, the lever hits the grip. It's scary to say the least. Pass thanks.

Then you said: "... and the same with clutching it starts faster with transmitting torque. This is noticeable but I dont know is better or worse... a matter of habit." You start cooking clutch, it takes the cable slack right out of the required gap. So you loosen those up to double or more now: is the gap. So of course you are going to be closer to the grip when cold, but when the clutch pack is cooking, expanding, takes up the cable gap, it's like you are running stock, but this time only hot is the setting.

Since you have no control of a cable adjust, you are handcuffed to that piston in the master's lever and all that. So if the lever is that close to the grip, has that fast an engagement, the hotter the abuse, the closer the lever gets to the point of not finding N is one and 'creep' at a light is next, you have the lever pulled to the grip. Pass again, thanks.

You don't know if it's better or worse? If you don't hot rod the heat, you are fine. Work the bike so your trousers are tight in the front, and has a slight deposit on the 100% cotton briefs at the rear? I wouldn't go there on those parts is parts is thank you very much.



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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/05/13 10:55 AM

Hab,

to be honest, I have no idea what are you talking about... so I cant refer to your speech...
for me, all is working fine in my bike, nothing boils, nothing heats, and my breifs remains in excellent condition.

Regards,

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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/05/13 3:12 PM

It said if you do not heat up the aftermarket levers to the point of fade or clutch slip, you'll be fine. If on the other hand, you try a 120 exit speed, then try an exit speed of 160mph, find the brakes fade at 160, you do not want levers that are already too close to the grips to begin with. Then and only then does one travel at 160, apply brakes, find the 100% briefs are a bit soiled when all is said and done.



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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/05/13 3:19 PM

Thanks Wfo and Daniel my RCS19 should be here in a couple of days. I didn't feel the need to upgrade the clutch but I see a shiftstar and maybe and an RCS16 to match the brake in the future.



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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/05/13 3:33 PM

Where can I find these 100% excellent briefs?
Mine are at 38% on a good day.


* Last updated by: hagrid on 3/5/2013 @ 3:35 PM *



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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/24/13 11:57 PM

I installed the RCS16 and 19 yesterday but haven't ran fluid through them yet. I'm trying to come up with a decent way to mount the peepee cups...
Just from the settings, I can tell those MC's are way better than OEM's. I imagine the clutch and the brake can engage further in 16-18 and 19-18 setting but the lever travel is adjustable so I have no worry about exiting at 160 with the 100% tidy whities LOL



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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/30/13 8:54 PM

Hub's correct, keep that lever out from the bar, you'll crap your shorts if its too close and you're going too fast! Got it solved whereas the frigging Kawi dealer COULDN'T, took it to a Harley mechanic, he bled it down from the bottom, and, been good to go ever since!



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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/30/13 9:21 PM

It is difficult to follow a discussion thread when lots of posts/comments have been deleted. Don't mind me, I am just thinking out loud.

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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/30/13 10:31 PM

Got it solved whereas the frigging Kawi dealer COULDN'T, took it to a Harley mechanic, he bled it down from the bottom, and, been good to go ever since!

That's a shame but I'm glad you're back on the road.



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RE: Front Master Cylinder Failure
03/31/13 11:34 AM

Smart thinking going to a Harley tech,...If he can make a 800lb. piece of shit harley stop he should be able to fix a zx14 easily.



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