Anyone have these?
Can't find any images of them on a 14. Looks like they would give the passenger a bit more leg room. My concern is that the passengers foot possitioning may be too far forward, taking away some the passengers ability to push forward into the rider. Pretty important for them to stay on the bike under hard acceleration.
Thinkin' 'bout pickin' these up... but don't wanna leave my GF sittin' in the middle of an intersection!

Any input??

Cool looking if you have passenger footpegs on the bike. It looks like that may interfere with an exhaust on the 14. Looks like it's designed for underseat exhaust. What I'm interested in is a set of rearsets for pilot.

The Satos look like they are very well machined. According to what is indicated in this link, most positions are for lowering a/o moving forward. Position 8 is a tiny bit higher and back a smidgen but I doubt that would make a big difference from stock cornering clearance. Sato Positions

1. Anyway, Dogo (or anyone else out there) don't you think Vortex rearsets look to be much more adjustable with all of the holes?

One other thing....don't take off and think you can bump the pegs with your calves after switching to rearsets. No more spring action.

2. Which raises another cornering question: Would we not be better with spring flexion of stock pegs if we drag in a corner than no spring flexion of rearsets?

3. ....and another thing---the Satos don't really have any kind of heel guard, do they?

* Last updated by: Rook on 12/1/2010 @ 11:05 PM *

I have a Honda 919 & Sato rearsets on it, same as what is shown in pic 2 & 3. Pic one shows sets for the 14 I think. I also have the add-on passenger pegs shown in pic 2 except mine are silver and have never been installed on the bike since I don't ride passengers. Anyway, the passenger pegs are specifically for the 919 Sato rearsets AFAIK. What exactly do you want to know... need measurements?

As far as Sato quality goes, they are second to none. I will be putting Sato rearsets on my new 2011 z1000. I'd consider them for the 14 if I didn't need it setup for air-shifting.

Let me know what ya need me to check for you. I can take accurate measurements and good pictures as needed.

* Last updated by: motoCycho on 12/2/2010 @ 2:35 AM *

Thanks, motoCycho. It would be nice to be able to raise the pegs enough to avoid any chance of touching a peg in a corner or at least significantly reduce the risk. I would like having the option of adjusting to a more sporty, backswept and higher foot position.

According to the link above, the Satos can be raised 12.5 mm which is a hair higher than 1/2 inch. They can be placed back 10 mm which is a bit less than 1/2 inch. Would you say that those measurements are accurate motoCycho?

Also, can anyone tell me if the Vortex pegs can be raised and placed back significantly more? It's hard to tell from the pic but looks like it could be closer to 1" up and 7/8" back.

The Satos sure look much more ergonamic and sturdy. They even look like they would move a lot slicker which might be important considering you now have the link rod to the crankcase instead of the shift lever going right on the shaft there.

You're right, Cycho. That style passenger kit is only available for the 919. I spoke with someone a Kyle Racing yesterday. He called Sato while I was on the phone to check for me. Kneedraggers, and a couple other websites, are selling the passenger peg kit with pictures of the 919 kit. I was told "they're idiots". The only passenger peg kit Sato makes for the zx14 is the hight mount style.

Thanks for offering to take measurments of the 919 passenger pegs, Cycho, but I don't think I'd go that direction anyway.

As far as adjustability goes, Rook, it looks like the Vortex would give you more options, but I cannot find that info on the net. It's nice that Sato lists all the positions on there website.
Sato does not make heel guards for the zx14 rearsets. Also, with the Satos, you must order them for either standard or GP (reverse) shifting. The Vortex's come with two different rods that you can change out to switch between standard or GP.

Don't think bumpimg my calves would be an issue with aftermarket rearsets. I've never bumped 'em with the stockers. Masszx brought up the point of the spring loaded pegs being better for a large bike, like the zx14, that is prone to drag hard parts in a thread I read a few days ago. Makes sense... however, I'm spending a lot of money to help with my zx14 dragging hard parts. My bike should drag the lowers, then exhaust, then pegs. Unlike my first zx14 which touched down all that shit simultaneously. I'm thinking if I'm dragging footpegs hard enough to worry about a lowside, it's gonna already be innevidable.

* Last updated by: DogoZX on 12/2/2010 @ 12:03 PM *

Masszx brought up the point of the spring loaded pegs being better for a large bike, like the zx14, that is prone to drag hard parts in a thread I read a few days ago. Makes sense... however, I'm spending a lot of money to help with my zx14 dragging hard parts.

I was hoping to get Mass to post on this thread but he has removed his PM function here.

Found this thread at Bikeland. Somebody apparently makes pegs that attach to the stock peg brackets which allows the pegs to fold if they touch.
pics of stock bracket rear sets on bikeland

I've done a little looking around and so far it looks like the foot position of rearsets is more limited on the 14 than other bikes for some reason. Sato rarsets for a G2 busa will go back about 1.25" and up 1.33". That is probably high enough that you would lowside before you ever touched a peg.

Another thing.....if you go with rearsets on the street, you need to purchase some additional part to activate the rear brake light. I rarely ever use my rear brake by itself exceot at really low speed but I guess i would like to have it functioning for the road just for peace of mind.

And silver is a good color for rearsets because you can't see black at all. Wish I would a bid on that $150 pair of Vortex. Might have got them for about 200 if the other guy wasn't too hot for them.

* Last updated by: Rook on 12/2/2010 @ 1:24 PM *

Wish I would a bid on that $150 pair of Vortex

You and me both.

Tryin' to pace myself on $$$ spent on the new bike... so far I'm failing miserably though.

Here's the thread I was refering to:Rear sets - Vortex or Sato

As far as the rear brakelight switch. The Satos come with a banjo pressure switch. If you get the Vortex, you need to buy one. They're only $20.

Another thing.....if you go with rearsets on the street, you need to purchase some additional part to activate the rear brake light

Vortex has a part that does that, but I didn't even mess with it when I installed the Vortex rear sets. The brakelight comes on when you use the front brake, and I never brake with the rear brake only. Don't use it much at all, actually... -bg

How high and how far back were you able to adjust your Vortex rearsets for track riding, BG?

How high and how far back were you able to adjust your Vortex rearsets for track riding, BG?

Hi, Rook.

I put them back and up as far as they will go. I don't know how that compares to the stock position. I guess I could pull out the stock sets and measure if you're interested. -bg

As far as the rear brakelight switch. The Satos come with a banjo pressure switch. If you get the Vortex, you need to buy one. They're only $20.

got mine off the local kawi dealers clearence table..$2.....lol

I put them back and up as far as they will go. I don't know how that compares to the stock position. I guess I could pull out the stock sets and measure if you're interested. -bg

Nah, not necessary, bg. I would be interested in knowing how far apart the holes in the Vortex adjuster plate are from the lowest setting to the highest and the forwardmost to the rearmost. If you could just eyeball that for me, that would be great.

These look pretty similar to Satos but they have a heel ptrotector.
Nobunaka

rook the holes are 1/2" apart now mine i have set just 1 hole back. by looking at it you can go up to 1" back and 1" up

* Last updated by: scottjkyl on 12/3/2010 @ 10:25 AM *

These look pretty similar to Satos but they have a heel ptrotector.

These look nothing like the Satos and are the rearsets I'm leaning towards getting.
Gilles

Hard Racing has them for $459, which is the best price I've found.

I like that the Gilles don't use linkage for the shifter.

Thank you very much for the great pic and info, Scott. Perfect reference.

The middle forward hole is stock position so actually you can go back one inch from stock; up 1/2 inch or down 1/2 inch from stock.

Am I getting that right, Scotty?

I like that the Gilles don't use linkage for the shifter.

I was looking at Gillies too. I did not realize they were made for the 14. They look very high quality and very adjustable. Great looking. I really love the link rod though. The long ones on literbikes are sweet.

Hard Racing has them for $459, which is the best price I've found.

ouch lol i got my vortex for $100 lol

rook they dont have to be parralel so you could put the top in the stock position and the bottom back in the third row which would give you the 1" up

ouch lol i got my vortex for $100 lol

I know, huh... thing is $459 is $100 less than some folks want for Gilles. I've looked through all of the pdf's on Gilles' website... doesn't look like the bearings are made outta solid gold!

Thanks for the info here, guys. Thanks to Rook for pointing me here to this thread.

Anyone know if any of these rearsets you all spoke of are able to be used in a GP shift pattern, otherwise known as a reverse shift pattern? That would be one up and 5 down.

I am trying to have my street bikes (ZX14 and my ZRX1200R) and my race bikes (R6) all using the same shift pattern so I don't do something stupid when shifting and jam a gear. I don't need to buy the same brands for each bike, but I do need to have all of the bikes using a GP shift pattern.

I'd like to see any brand of rearsets mounted to a ZX14. Most of the pics of Sato's or any other brand of rearsets are mounted to other brands/bikes. I'm sure the ZX14 rearsets are not identical to the ones mounted to other brands, so if you got rearsets on your bike, post up a pic and tell us how you like them. Also, tell us if you are able to run GP shift with your rearsets.

Thanks!

* Last updated by: KneeScraper on 3/25/2011 @ 9:53 PM *

knee the vortex comes with 2 rods stock and gp, so far i really like them will be experimenting with different settings this summer may even try the gp to see if i like it

* Last updated by: scottjkyl on 3/26/2011 @ 6:23 AM *

I went with the Vortex's.

I would love to get a set of rearsets on the 14. Vortex is the way I'd go. good range of adjustment , a little less expensive , parts are avialable if you need replacement parts. Those look great, Dogo.

Thanks for digging this thread up, Kneescraper. I haven't beemn doing much about rearsets except thinking about them but perhaps I'll order some later this year.