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Thread: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...

Created on: 11/14/15 12:09 PM

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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/09/15 5:16 PM

My 1st CCW class was cool because I did not have to take the shooting range test. The instructor would talk to you privately and if he was convinced you knew your way around your weapon he just signed off. He finally got busted and the prosecutors did not know what to do about the 2700 plus permits he classroom approved. Like a dummy I let it lapse but still had a valid out of state permit. The 2nd time for my CCW class I took the 380 LCP to shoot with since that is what I carry most of the time. All 50 rounds hit the black of the silhouette but they were all over. That thing is hard to shoot but seemed like everybody wanted to try the toy gun. I think the final analysis of this with everybody was if it is farther than 25 ft then thro the gun at the and take off running



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/09/15 5:17 PM

There is something in Islam called "taquiah" which tells them to deceive the non believers. This can then be used to spread their religion. I wonder if Moscow has any "Muslim no go zones" or safe spaces for "cis genders"?



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/09/15 5:22 PM

I want to see Muslim citizens get up and publicly protest Muslim extremist groups. I want these protests to be ongoing and big enough that they draw a lot of attention. I doubt that would do much to stop terrorist attacks but it would sure do a lot for the confidence of non-Muslims. If they honor the practice of not speaking out against other Muslims......there's your foregone conclusion.



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/09/15 5:52 PM

There are 3 primary rules and one supporting rule in islam.

Primary Rules of islam

1. Infidels must be converted to islam. Qur’an:8:39 “Fight them until all opposition ends and all submit to Allah.”

2. Infidels who will not convert must pay a tax to islam. Qur’an:9:29 “Fight those who do not believe until they all surrender, paying the protective tax in submission.”

3. Infidels who do not convert or pay the tax must be KILLED. Qur’an:9:5 - “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Supporting Rule

• All members of islam are allowed to LIE to Infidels if the LIE supports the growth of islam. Taqiyya

Ask a muslim i.e. anyone who follows islam if they are allowed to pick and choose which parts of the qur’an to follow? The answer is, they can’t pick and choose which parts to follow. Doing so is called apostate which would lead to their own death for they would be killed by a fellow muslim. To follow islam is to adhere to every word in the qur’an.

This means there is no such thing as a Moderate muslim. For someone to follow the qur’an they must submit which means you must submit one way or the other.

They really are trying to convert you, tax you, or KILL you.

I stand by my words; islam is Fundamentally Bad for America.

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12/09/15 9:27 PM

yep...there's no getting around that.I agree.I've heard of this before.But I wonder though...how many(say over here)actually follow all that to a tee.I mean...probably IF they could actually overrun the American people...or be close to the numbers to do that...and were motivated enough,then they MAY resort to these teachings.But here...I can't see that happening.Too many other faiths and beliefs here.If this scenario started playing out(they ARE being monitored you can bet on that)it would be stopped before it ever got to this point.Jews,Christians,others...they aren't ever gonna buy into Islam.No way.There are 'fringe' groups and individuals that believe in this hardline stance...but they're not going unnoticed.

The government cannot and will not tell this stuff to the public.What they're doing that is.They throw out a 'bone' to the public...but they're WAY deeper into this thing(surveilling Muslims and such) than anyone outside of em knows.

As ignorant as Obama seems on this stuff..there's a whole network of Govt teams and such on this.He knows the depth of these ops.Remember...he's the frontman.Others are running this show here in America.He's not coming up with anything original.


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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/10/15 3:55 PM

Ask a muslim i.e. anyone who follows islam if they are allowed to pick and choose which parts of the qur’an to follow?

I do not believe a lot of Muslims will talk about their religion to infidels.

I wonder though...how many(say over here)actually follow all that to a tee.I mean...probably IF they could actually overrun the American people...or be close to the numbers to do that...and were motivated enough,then they MAY resort to these teachings.But here...I can't see that happening.

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they're WAY deeper into this thing(surveilling Muslims and such) than anyone outside of em knows.

apparently NOT ENOUGH to detect the San Bernadino plot that took place over the course of more than one year.



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/10/15 4:31 PM

I still think Putin is reacting to the terrorist threat and Muslim immigration wisely and I wish our president had similar opinions on these particular issues.

The President's opinion is that The Constitution prohibits discrimination on the basis of religion. While it may be true that totalitarian regimes may control their citizens a bit better than we do, I think I'd still choose our system as it is rather than modifying it to resemble Russia or China, where people disappear for disagreeing with the government or even posting a disagreement with government leaders on the internet. At least here, we are still free to do that, even when we make suggestions that we should be more like them.



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12/10/15 4:40 PM

Christians have been trying to convert non-believers for nearly 2000 years. Some of the methods are benign and some have been murderous. Has anyone here ever read about The Crusades or The Inquisition? You should all read a book called "The Soong Dynasty" which begins with a Chinese cabin boy coming to America, learning to print Bibles and being sent back to China to help convert all those heathens. It's pretty much an explanatory history of China from the Boxer Rebellion to the present time. So "lying to Infidels" for the purposes of swaying their beliefs is nothing new and definitely not recently invented by Muslims. How can anyone be shocked or indignant when people display behavior that has been common throughout history?



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/10/15 10:13 PM

Lecture as if a professor is giving a history lesson.



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/12/15 12:04 AM

the inquisition and crusades were catholics, they are not the spokesperson for Christianity,
the first century church was jewish, and had nothing to do with rome, much like they have tried to
change the original text and format and intellect things that were not there in the first place.

And the crusades were in response to many many years of Muslims murdering rampages towards christians
and jews and others, Islam has always done this since around 700 AD

Jesus never told anyone to kill in His name for anything. the koran, the hadiths, the sura's and
mohamed ALL tell muslims to kill people that will not conform to islam



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/12/15 6:27 AM

the inquisition and crusades were catholics, they are not the spokesperson for Christianity,

Those who kill in the name of Islam are not spokesmen for Islam, either. If fact, different sects of Islam war with each other, both claiming the mantle of "true" Islam.

And you are correct, Jesus never said to kill in his name. At it's core, Christianity is a pacifist religion. But not many Christians are pacifist. Is that an indictment of the Religion or it's followers? Should Christians turn the other cheek in the face of terrorist murders? Jesus said so.

Trying to make a point here about the difference between Religion and religion. The former is an established system of beliefs in which the followers supposedly adhere to tenets of behavior. The latter is how people actually behave. The word "religion" comes from the latin; "religio" which means "way of life" or more correctly, how one lives and behaves. Religions were all established as a civilizing influence on the barbaric masses of people. Unfortunately, no system has succeeded in removing all the barbaric tendencies from it's followers, so bad behavior is rationalized via their Religion. Just like the Catholics, who claim the mantle of true, original Christianity did in the Crusades. The Crusades may have been in response to barbarous behavior on the part of Muslims, but there was no Muslim invasion of Europe. The Crusades, just like our current activities in the Middle East, were invasions of Muslim territories. I say territories rather than countries because before the end of WWII, when the British drew lines in the sand, there were no well-defined countries in the Middle East. The whole area was in flux for thousands of years depending upon warlords and conquerors. It still is.

Ted Cruz, with whom I disagree on just about everything said the other day we would have been better off if we has just left Saddam Hussein in power. He should have spoken up a few years earlier.


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12/12/15 7:47 AM

"we would have been better off if we has just left Saddam Hussein in power". He should have spoken up a few years earlier"...the lesser of two evils.Yeah.Lots of people WERE saying this.Especially the MiddleEast experts around the White House.Bush didn't want to not hit Saddam.Remember Saddam threatened his dad..."I'll kill your two sons as well"...that was way played down at the time.Bush Jr held onto that.

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12/12/15 11:06 AM

Danno, I just spelled it out for you, Islam has always been violent, I have read the koran, the hadiths,
the suras and mohameds own words, and it specifically says to kill the infidels, that is anyone that
will not submit to Islam, there are literally tens of millions of muslims that either are terrorists
or support terrorism, almost all of the terrorist attacks have been muslims, where is this other terror
you speak of from Christians, or any other religion besides islam ???????

Even if the catholics were the origins of christianity (which they are NOT) where in recent history
have you seen any massive christian movement to kill and murder anyone that will not submit to christianity ?

If it means anything, I am of arab decent, my grandfather came to the US legally before War one and
fought in the war, he was a Christian, and even back then, he was escaping islam persecution, from the
once chrisitan lebanon, (yes the muslims took that territory over in a massacre of christians)

Again, islam has never been peaceful except for a brief time when it was first invented around 670 AD,
to this day, even in so called "moderate" places like saudi arabia, women are treated like trash, they
still stone homosexuals to death for just being gay, people are severely oppressed in Iran, Iraq, syria
etc ...



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/12/15 3:24 PM

where in recent history
have you seen any massive christian movement to kill and murder anyone that will not submit to christianity ?

I have to agree. I'm most concerned about the here and now. If warfare oppression and violence was a part of this religion or that at some point in history, I don't care. I just don't want to suffer from it right now.



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/12/15 5:32 PM

So, Carabuser, in your opinion, all Muslims are murderous terrorists by the nature of their religion, and should be wiped from the face of the earth?



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/12/15 5:42 PM

This gives me hope. I hope I hear more stories like this. Good Muslims are not responsible for the actions of the bads but this kind of gesture means much much more than the $$ value.



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/12/15 6:01 PM

where is this other terror
you speak of from Christians, or any other religion besides islam ???????

Do you have any idea how many innocent civilians were killed by American bombs and bullets during the Iraq war? And now in Syria? How do you suppose the survivors view us after the apologies? Could you blame them if they cover us with the same blanket you're throwing over them? Are we just fighting for the oil? Or are we there to impose our way of life upon them? Christianity has not been a peaceful religion since it's early times, either. I guarantee they don't want freedom, sexual equality and democracy any more than we want Sharia law. You may not believe our actions over there constitute the prosecution of religious war, but that's exactly what they are. Peaceful Muslims say the terrorists don't represent their Religion. One of the Ten Commandments is "Thou shall not kill" They don't call them "The Ten General Suggestions" It seems believers on both sides are free to ignore whatever part of their Religion they choose. So it's not really either Religion that is violent or non-violent. It's people who choose to behave in a certain way and use their Religion as a rationalization for that behavior.



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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/12/15 8:42 PM

I believe in crushing, via the full weight of the military, the origin of any aggressor to my country.



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12/12/15 10:53 PM

So now the Military is Christians ?? We are trying to free a country, wether we can do it of not is the question, we try hard not to hit civilians, you are equating that with terrorists that systematically murder innocent people ??
and terrorists do suicide bombings all the time to countries that have NEVER set foot on their land. and I know whats going on over there, I know soldiers that have came back from Afghanistan

Not all muslims agree with terrorism, but about 70 percent of the mosques over in the mid east preach it,
as stated, muslim sympathizers account for a high percentage, there are almost 2 billion muslims in the world
so you do the math, also look up Caliphate .....


"Christianity has not been a peaceful religion since it's early times"

Again, Yes it has been peaceful, Jesus and the apostles where the early JEWISH church, and preached
and lived to love one another etc ... the inquisition was CATHOLIC and in the 12TH CENTURY !!, the roman catholic church hijacked Christianity, Catholicism is NOT Christianity, many of their books are not canonized
and many of their ideals are considered heresy


I urge you to read the whole truth about islam, the whole concept is to oppress people and FORCE them to submit to islam, and yes to do jihad, you know the only way they are positively assured to get to their supposed "paradise"
To kill an infidel, thats how ! read the real koran, hadiths, suras that they have in the mid east and you will see what the truth is. I'm not going to comment anymore, if you want to know the truth, read what I have just stated, if not, oh well. take care and ride safe

Oh sorry, one more thing, you mentioned something about oil ? if we wanted their oil so bad, we could have taken over the mid east at anytime soon after WW2, we still can if we wanted to ... most of the equipment in the mid east is bought and installed by the USA or oil wells, who did they call on to put out the fires in the oil wells when the terrorist where lighting them on fire ? they called the US. also we have weapons that all these other countries could not fathom in their wildest dreams, trust me on that, people very close to me worked in military intel for life and defense contractors, that all I will say, If we are the imperialist that all these progressives say that we are, we could easily take over these other countries IF WE WANTED TOO


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12/12/15 11:26 PM

I like the corn syrup pee theory, you mix that up and if it makes contact with paper, it goes off like flash paper. Peepoles were coming out of prayer, a rotochopter was spraying it and monitoring the buildings from catching fire, but the berkas were extinguished with stones.

Took a few fry days and nothing to follow, oops, instant civilized pee holes contemplating their navel.



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12/13/15 3:02 PM

8:40 for those who still don't get it.
12:00 is for the simple exposed propaganda that sucks in the college crowd that they too do not get it.

Any suggestions about someone being peaceful or fill in the blank, USEDumbumblingroupoutinglobalosers is half the country and all of you rope'din do nothings.

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12/13/15 7:54 PM

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12/13/15 8:50 PM

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12/13/15 9:24 PM

You know whats going on at the "refugee" centers ? more of the same from that peaceful religions

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RE: Well, it looks like that "peaceful" religion has struck again ...
12/14/15 9:03 AM

Well I guess a bunch of Imams just announced a Fatwa against ISIS as not represetning Islam. So things are starting to happen...

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