Thanks, Grn, Extrapolator. I have the Gen-Mars, 1" up and 5/8" back. Don't help near enough.
In Grn's photo's, it just seemed like his bars were higher.

If you need them to come back,the genmars and any other 'block' combo won't help.You'll need something like helibars or similar.
Also...'bags-connection' has a VERY good set of soft bags.Lots of room to store stuff.I have a set...fitment is great,styling is excellent.
These come with two 3mm or so thick clear wide strips to place on the side rear fairings.They used to anyway.No problem though to but some at a hardware store.These include the straps and all to secure em.Very simple to install and remove.Then you carry it like a suitcase...it has a handle in the front there.
You do need to remove the rear cowl however on the 14.It cannot be installed after the bags are on there.Excellent choice.Believe me...I've packed tons of stuff in mine,,,plenty for a couple weeks at least.
It's bigger than the video makes it look.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 10/12/2019 @ 9:09 PM *

Found a State Park not far from me. Cabin in background built 1882. A 1-room structure that housed a Family of 6.
This location was built in 1933 by the CCC and was "the first scientific study in North America of soil and silt erosion with a specific watershed". Arkansas took over the area and it is now Woolly Hollow State Park.

Grn, thanks for the bag info.

Mmmmmm. Same pic is on bumpfire's Facebook.

@KAK...no problem.https://images.app.goo.gl/EMrrAxUpkU6MoULVA just highlight the link and right click to 'go to'.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 10/14/2019 @ 9:16 AM *

busakillerzx14r wins!!

Mmmmmm. Same pic is on bumpfire's Facebook.

Ah Thankyou very much Danno. I definitely owe you a beer!
And forum members, there is the proof for what you all already knew.

Bumpfire is banned from this forum for aggressive and unbecoming behaviour.
Straight after that Bumpfire then abuses another forum member via Facebook inadvertently exposing his real name as Scott ********* (count the number of stars representing your surname Bumpfire).
Cleenfourteen then joins this site and due to aggressive opinions, abuse in responses and writing style is immediately challenged as to being the banned Bumpfire.
Cleenfourteen denies this.
Cleenfourteen then posts the above picture of his 14 in front of a very individual aircraft.
And guess what?
Exactly the same picture of 14 / aircraft is on Scott ********* / Bumpfire's Facebook page as his own.
Checkmate and game over.

People like Bumpfire / Scott / Cleenfourteen will always be found out for what they really are.
Smart people would never be foolish enough to make such a basic error like this.
Fools who realise they are fools are generally ultra cautious in case of making a simple mistake like this because they understand their limitations.
But a fool who truly believes they are smart have such unfounded confidence they will always make foolish decisions.
And it is a simple and undeniable fact that it's only a matter of time before a liar and deceiver will always be exposed for who they really are.

It is now proven that Cleenfourteen is Bumpfire.
The only response from any normal and rational thinking decent human being after being found out and exposed like this would be a full apology and we all move on. Especially after the humiliating / embarrassing comments made and stances taken over and over in the past.
Start reading from here

But watch the double down that results now...

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/14/2019 @ 10:22 PM *

Hey yannih ... I'm visiting your island again starting Dec 31st, just on time for New Year's

Visiting our friends up in Oxford again for a few weeks

Hey yannih ... I'm visiting your island again starting Dec 31st, just on time for New Year's

Well mate, as you say you will be on the South Island so if you get down to Queenstown by chance let me know we will have a beer...

They're talking about us going south, to a lake or 2, but not sure if all the way to Queenstown. Will check in if we do

But watch the double down that results now...

Even when the undeniable proof is presented for all to see, this guy is still 100% comfortable lying not only to all here but also to himself!

Such a sad, sorry, insecure, lying, deceitful, pathetic and predictable little man.

My work here is done...

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/14/2019 @ 3:43 PM *

Cleen ... When I click this FB page of Scott Flenniken https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1405574496221940&set=piaarp.100003082101433&type=3&theater

... the pic I see is the same one you posted in this thread on 10/11/19 9:45 AM

Are you Scott? Or are you just borrowing his pic?

* Last updated by: extrapolator on 10/14/2019 @ 4:31 PM *

HAHA nice!

I assume Scott is your bud?

Cleen ... When I click this FB page of Scott Flenniken
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1405574496221940&set=piaarp.100003082101433&type=3&theater
... the pic I see is the same one you posted in this thread on 10/11/19 9:45 AM

Well what do you know Extrapolator?
The pic in question you saw has strangely and conveniently been deleted.
What are the chances?
Who would have thought?

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/15/2019 @ 3:38 PM *

Well what do you know Extrapolator?
If you check again the pic in question you saw has strangely and conveniently been deleted.
What are the chances?
Who would have thought?

Oh I just assumed that FB page owner, Scott Flenniken, is eavesdropping on this thread, and when he saw he'd been spotted he decided to delete that pic. That's all it could be. Could not possibly have anything to do with Cleenfourteen. Cleen is a falsely accused innocent new guy who just signed up on July 31st. Too soon for him, cannot possibly be part of any shenanigans.

Ah, is that what it is?
Thanks for setting me straight Ex...

Sport, I bet mental illness runs in your family, that you cant help it. Its ok, we understand.

You couldn't do this man to man could you?
First my country.
Now my family.
And with that you just crossed the line.

How does it feel hiding behind your computer screen making those comments like the filthy little coward you are?
Make you feel tough does it?
I know one thing. You would never have the balls to say it to my face you pathetic weasel!

Okay you low fuck.
I wasn't going to go down this path but now I no longer care.

All know you are Bumpfire.
It's long standing knowledge and has been proven.
And you also know too don't you, but you are now so far gone you actually believe your own lies.
You have refused to answer the most simple question as to who you are and have hidden behind technicality.
You also foolishly allowed your real identity to be revealed and therefore so many here have seen right through you pathetic attempts at being taken seriously.
You stupidly posted the same pic of your bike in front of an individual aircraft from Scott ********* Facebook page (which you revealed to be your true name when you as Bumpfire abused a forum member) to a Cleenfourteen post which members picked up immediately. And you think people are stupid enough to not see the proof here?

You think your desperate act of deleting the picture in question from your Facebook page redeems you?
Yet again you show what an absolute fool you are and your underestimation of others.

I happen to be in possession of a screen shot pre picture deletion and it shows the pic you deleted still on your Facebook page which you did not want seen.

And apparently I am not the only one. You are obviously not well liked here.

The problem for you is your family are also shown in that Facebook screen shot.

So here's the thing.
You've been demanding this picture from me because you believe you deleted it permanently and no one could see or retrieve it.
Well I have it and I'm fine to get it out to all here to again confirm what a lying fuck you are.

But know this.
It will expose and compromise your families privacy to the general public.

Now you can go on with your charade that you are the newbie Cleenfourteen and authorize the pic to be shown.
But it will expose and compromise your families privacy to the general public.
And after it is shown you might even come back as Bumpfire and get me banned. Could not give a shit.
But it will expose and compromise your families privacy to the general public.

And you would have to live with compromising the ones who actually rely on you to protect them.

But perhaps that means nothing to you because we already know you don't particularly care for them as you established in earlier posts so I am 99% sure which way this will go.

I now give you the choice to decide because I won't do this without your confirmation even though I could have.

Simply decide whether to
1. Reveal the picture and compromise and betray your family and prove/confirm you are a deceiver and a liar to all here because the picture was in fact on your Facebook page yet again confirming you are Bumpfire.
2. Or don't reveal the picture and prove/confirm you are a deceiver and a liar to all here but at least stand tall and protect your family?

Regardless it's your move you filthy coward...

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/16/2019 @ 10:19 AM *

Just like in the White House, if a lie is repeated often enough, brain-dead-morons believe it. From birthers to no quid pro quo, the zombie apocalypse is upon us.

Be a man and admit the truth. or be a brain-dead moron and keep lying.

... some fresh air from the French Alps from

Show us the picture that you think justifies your point. Must be humiliating for you. No screenshot? Once again you dont have dick and this guy still lives in your head halfway around the world. Methinks you should have shown your hand when asked, now you look down and dick is what your holding.

See below.
And how could you possibly know Bumpfire lives half way around the world???
You are so spectacularly stupid to provide yet more proof...

But I couldn't do it.
I just couldn't do it to further prove a point that everyone here already knows.
I had to cut your children, your two little girls, out.
They don't deserve this.

I think more of your family, people I have never ever met, than you do.

But in front of all here, you did it.
You actually had no issue compromising your own family solely to continue your lie!

But perhaps that means nothing to you because we already know you don't particularly care for them as you established in earlier posts so I am 99% sure which way this will go.

And you would have to live with compromising the ones who actually rely on you to protect them.

You are not a husband or father.
A man who will not protect his own family is not a man.
You are nothing more than the low of the lowest.

The face in the picture above shows an absolute coward who would sacrifice anyone and anything to continue a pathetic lie.
Including his own family.

Again, you have to live with that...

* Last updated by: yannih on 10/18/2019 @ 2:41 AM *

Nice cat pics, Grn

Thanks Extrap.I love these two.My buddies.PURRFECT companions for real.So glad you could nail a white 14r.That was my first choice,but at that time,they didn't have abs.Somehow I thought I needed abs...

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 10/16/2019 @ 11:25 AM *