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Thread: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!

Created on: 06/28/15 01:39 PM

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 2:13 AM

Grn; "Not C's responsibility to call you up and say.."Oh gee,wow...sorry...here,I'll fix this for ya"

I kinda disagree on this one, not that it makes a difference in the situation. I bought a used car last month. Dealer has called twice to ask how things are going. My flasher contacted me several times to make sure things were good. Had some gutters installed a couple months ago, and the owner emailed me to see how his workers did. I filed an insurance claim, and my agent contacted me a couple times to make sure my claim was being handled properly. Almost every time, people I do business with contact me to follow up. I would hope that a product with as much exposure on this site as a flash would get the same type of follow up. Especially a product with so many variables. A GOOD businessman would jump on any complaint, bend over backward to try to correct the problem, and post what attempts were made for reputation damage control. Unless of course he doesn't care about his product, reputation, business, or customers. Seriously, if it was my business, I'd buy Vic a new ECU to satisfy him! Cblast could take the flashed ECU and probably sell it in a week instead of letting this go on and on.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 2:24 AM

Grn like I said, you're a really nice guy. I don't really expect you to understand, this is all pretty much way over your pay grade brother. So just hush up go outside and play whack-a-pole in your neighbors parking lot. BTW I just got in a fresh supply of my special brown speed wax, a full 5 gallon bucket is waiting for you. Remember, free shipping and 20% off for forum participants. Guaranteed you'll feel a difference or I'll send you a special cleaner to remove the wax to return your bike to as it was before. "It might be smelly, but you'll feel it in your belly!"

Well 1st of all the flash was 300 not 400 and up as others talked about.

Gen 1 is 300, Gen 2 is 400 for some reason. All I can say is if there is any difference for Gen 2s CBlast flash actually makes, it's very small. Kawasaki spent a lot of time refining fueling and ignition for Gen 2, factory throttle delivery is a much different experience than Gen 1.

To me, the pricing is backwards. Even if there is some difference (by the test, the bike is slower .1) maybe the pricing should be reversed, 300 for Gen 2 because it makes such a less difference than Gen 1?

Yannih. Yannih if you're engine blew up and Kawasaki replaced it under warranty would you post here that it didn't happen? If you bought a pair of tires, and they delaminated after 100 miles, and they were replaced for free would you not report this? This is the difference. If you bought oil from Walmart, got home, opened it and found it was "returned used" oil would you not state this?

Why is it different because it's a flash? Sounds to me like you made a deal, basically blackmail, to get a refund. "Give me a refund and I won't tell anyone who you are." I can only assume this. Flashes are no different than any other product or service. People sell them, and people pay money for them. They either work, or they don't.

Did you make a deal, in exchange for a refund, not to reveal their identity as you refused to do here?

CBlast giving his cronies my full name and most likely address
So Wolfman has my full name. Most likely my address too. NastyNotch used my first name, safe enough to assume he's got my personal information as well. Both are members of Predator Racing, which CBlast is a member/sponsor/leader of. If they don't have my full personal information from me purchasing CBlast flash service, nothing is stopping CBlast from giving them that information as well.

Neither of these low life scum contacted me asking me for my personal information. They are not man enough to do so. Would I give it to them? Most likely not, what's in it for me? Do I give a fuck they have it? Not really. If they want to fight me, or mail me a bomb, or blow my house up, or vandalize my motorcycle, bring it. Any way it goes, they are using my personal information on this forum in an intimidating and threatening manner.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 2:27 AM

I kinda disagree on this one, not that it makes a difference in the situation. I bought a used car last month. Dealer has called twice to ask how things are going. My flasher contacted me several times to make sure things were good. Had some gutters installed a couple months ago, and the owner emailed me to see how his workers did. I filed an insurance claim, and my agent contacted me a couple times to make sure my claim was being handled properly. Almost every time, people I do business with contact me to follow up. I would hope that a product with as much exposure on this site as a flash would get the same type of follow up. Especially a product with so many variables. A GOOD businessman would jump on any complaint, bend over backward to try to correct the problem, and post what attempts were made for reputation damage control. Unless of course he doesn't care about his product, reputation, business, or customers. Seriously, if it was my business, I'd buy Vic a new ECU to satisfy him! Cblast could take the flashed ECU and probably sell it in a week instead of letting this go on and on.

Apparently CBlast customer service policy is to give out your personal information to his cronie team mates here on the forum to use in a threatening and intimidating manner. I guess that's like customer service... for mafioso.

Remember, I don't care about getting a refund, or a replaced ECU. That's up to CBlast. I'm sure he's read this thread. He can contact me, I don't care. That's not what I'm interested in. I would NEVER make a deal along the lines of "well the numbers didn't work out, and I'll support your product if you give me a refund" or something. NO FUCKING WAY. My soul cost way more than $400 or $700. If a refund or something is due, that's completely outside of my test results.

Look, again, I don't care about the $400. I learned a life lesson. $400 was a cheap reminder that I need to be careful who I conduct business with and why. I've had life lessons that have cost 10s of thousands of dollars (maybe even 6 figures) so $400...I don't really care.. (or $700 overall). It's not about the money, it's about the product. The product either meets what was advertised, or it doesn't.

In this case, the product was advertised to deliver more power that you can feel, apparently which is all in the 500 rpm RL increase ($25 from any other flasher) because by rpm range the bike is actual .1 second slower with the flash. The bike is supposed to sound different, it doesn't. It's supposed to rev like a liter bike, whatever the fuck that even means. FOR THE LOVE OF DORITOS CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WTF THIS IS EVEN SUPPOSED TO MEAN? I keep asking, no one is telling, not even Grn or CBlast cronies can even answer this one. Then it's supposed to get better fuel mileage, it doesn't. A guarantee involves returning the ECU to the original state, which is absolutely impossible due to the software CBlast uses. Seems overall like snake oil, especially as facts continue to come out and further points are derived additively. Consider now that CBlast has given out my personal information to people here to try to threaten and intimidate me by using my first and last names in their posts (replacing common words with my name).

That's what people need to know about CBlast.


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 5:55 AM

Vic, I have no idea why you feel the need to punctuate your points with negativity and assumptions that you can have no idea about.

This one time I will entertain you and provide you with an answer.

No deal was made with anyone.
And no threats were made.
This was a matter resolved between two parties and no one else.
Yes, there were some frank discussions but in the end a full refund was provided with no conditions attached.

Mistakes can be made by anyone. We all make them. Its a human trait. But its how these mistakes are worked through that matter.
In the end the right thing was done for me as the customer so why would I publicly speak poorly about that party?
I appreciated the resolution and therefore you will never hear that persons name from me.

Don't agree? Its your right.
Think you've figured out who it is?
Congratulations.
Then you don't need me in this anymore.

For your information and the future, I don't owe you or anyone else any explanation for decisions I make and why.
As long as I can look in the mirror and honestly say I am okay with what I see, that's all that matters to me.
And respect is something you earn. You cannot ask for it or be told you now have it or now don't.

This is the last time I respond to this thread.
When it gets this negative and personal, I'm out.

What happened to this being informative and fun?


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 6:34 AM

Vic
I am a father of two kids and I have a legal job. I am not a criminal, gang member, arsonist, bike thief, or a felon lurking in the shadows waiting to pounce on you. I live thousands of km away from you. I am not a liar or a cheat. A while back, I heard your name mentioned. I did not post it on this forum to threaten you or hurt you. In fact, I did not post it. I posted a play on words. That only you would recognize once someone dropped your name. When you posted your affirmation - out of respect I removed it. I never posted your full name. Your anger with C is clear. Everyone sees it! The anger has always in my opinion clouded your judgement. I get it you hate the flash. I get others did too but 17 pages of dragging a man's name through mud - too much.
I was always up front and honest with people, he, C, is my friend. The only reason we ever quarreled was because you target people who disagree with you and direct profane degradations at many people I have come to know and respect. Many of the targets you pick are people I really respect and like. I don't hate anyone on this forum. I do respect many people and I have made many friends along the way. Good people, with families, good people who have shared info, helped me with questions. Good people who molded my insight about bike culture and ride ethic. Even if I've disagreed with people I have always learned something from them. Alligator, for example, has always reminded me there are always two sides and multilpe different perspectives. You sir, on the other hand burn and scortch people who/whom disagree with you. When individuals offer constructive criticism you get predictably defensive and offensive. These posts above are a good example. In fact, many of your threads quickly turn into soap operas. This is one of the reasons I've stop posting and have checked in time to time. I realized I enjoyed knowing how my friends are doing and I like to know if everyone's ok and well. If I log on it's for this singular purpose. I don't post anymore because I don't want to participate in drama or create it and let's face it most of the drama is directed by you. Since I can't stop it, it's better I just do not participate. I tried pming you to tell you this but you took me to be inflammatory, swore at and insulted my character rather then listen to advice. My only worry is that people like you will learn hard lessons with that attitude and people like you don't seem to understand how their actions and choices are the enemy, and not other people or life.

So let's confirm. I have no idea where you live. I don't care. I've heard your name mentioned - remember we are a small knit biker community lots of people know people on here.

I don't feel I need to apologize to you.

I will not check this post or respond to you anymore for the same reasons above ^^

My hope is you either recognize my points above and be more sincere or just go away and leave the forum.

I am ready for attacks to my character - put downs, offensive swear words and anger keyboarding. Fire away. I will not answer or stoop to that level.

This is my last post.

W


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 7:02 AM

"I kinda disagree on this one, not that it makes a difference in the situation"...yeah...you have a point...but not everybody does the same things..knowing Vic's MO...we've NO idea how or even IF he contacted C concerning this deal.

If he started straight out being accusing with C,then no wonder things went south.Who knows?


Vic said(AGAIN)"I don't really expect you to understand",...LOL.

I understand my 14 and H2 run circles around your bike;)


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 7:08 AM

"factory throttle delivery is a much different experience than Gen 1"...really?You had a gen 1 didja?And I'M too dense to understand stuff .

Now THIS is entertainment...thanks Vicster...I needed my morning laugh!


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 7:13 AM

Yan says.."What happened to this being informative and fun?"...trolls don't like 'informative and fun'...they like anger and confusion.You are totally 100% right on the money with your comments and thoughts about stuff.You've got integrity for one thing...that's a BIG one.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 7:17 AM

"Vic, I have no idea why you feel the need to punctuate your points with negativity and assumptions that you can have no idea about"...because he's trying to suck people in so he can can feel superior to us 'mortals' by yankin our chains.This is school day..."trolls 101".LOL

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 7:21 AM

"Why is it different because it's a flash? Sounds to me like you made a deal, basically blackmail, to get a refund. "Give me a refund and I won't tell anyone who you are." I can only assume this"...sheesh...dude...you're telling on yerself again.This is what YOU'D do...not these other guys.WOW.That's MY assumption;)

So now you're pissed cause you didn't think of this 'first' before posting yer 'results'?Bad Vicmiester...bad.


Isn't this what's called..'shooting oneself in the foot'?

You think C blast or anyone else doing these flashes gives a (expletive) whether someone critcizes their product?

If YOU had a winning deal...would YOU care about criticism?HELLO??????


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 7:31 AM

Wolfman says..."This is my last post"..Vic says.."Fuckin A...got another one".

You see this,right fellas?

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 8:20 AM

Vic says.."I don't care about getting a refund, or a replaced ECU. That's up to CBlast"...no...that's up to YOU Vic.


You say over and over it's HIS responsibility to do this or that...your comments are clearly directed to 'show' Cblast in a bad light.And whomever else you can hook into this deal.That's REALLY what this is about,isn't it?Stir stuff up...get guys here emotionally snagged in.

This whole thing is SO simple.But you've 'managed' to throw darts at a bunch here...over YOUR issue.Which really,you don't care whether the flash worked or not.It isn't about that for you,is it .

You claim Cblast is some sort of con man.I've talked at length with him over time.I've had him here.At my home.Your claims about 'his not working with you' or whatever just don't JIBE with the Cblast I met and worked with.

Maybe you're jealous he has friends?IDK.

Silly boy...tricks are for kids.


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 8:31 AM

Vic says.."BTW I just got in a fresh supply of my special brown speed wax, a full 5 gallon bucket is waiting for you. Remember, free shipping and 20% off for forum participants. Guaranteed you'll feel a difference or I'll send you a special cleaner to remove the wax to return your bike to as it was before. "It might be smelly, but you'll feel it in your belly!"...don't you know by now..the successful dealers don't use there own product.

No thanks...I'll trust your results.

Nice little catchphrase though...how telling .


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 10:04 AM

From Rook: I'd do a flash but I never could get my head around how fueling for some other bike could be perfect for every bike--same mods or not. Every engine is different and will benefit most from custom tuned fueling and possibly it's custom tuned timing. The rest, I say go ahead and flash if you feel little lucky.

From lytnin: That was the reason Ivan would flash a puter but could not make an almost perfect map for your bike that was away from his area. He wanted a dyno made map for your bike. He might get close which is what most hope for. Two same year bikes with the same mods on the same day dyno runs will have some different numbers in their maps.

Yup and why Romans is extolling the virtues of Auto-tune and PC5 even with a flash. Flashing is a new mod to ad to the list but it doesn't replace the old technology. Unless you have your own dyno and flash software, you still need a PC5 for best performance and you would be best to use a second ECU. That's a lot of damn money no matter ho you slice it. From what we've seen, a flash alone might not improve the performance.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 10:39 AM

Vic says.."I don't care about getting a refund, or a replaced ECU. That's up to CBlast"...no...that's up to YOU Vic.


You say over and over it's HIS responsibility to do this or that...your comments are clearly directed to 'show' Cblast in a bad light.And whomever else you can hook into this deal.That's REALLY what this is about,isn't it?Stir stuff up...get guys here emotionally snagged in.

This whole thing is SO simple.But you've 'managed' to throw darts at a bunch here...over YOUR issue.Which really,you don't care whether the flash worked or not.It isn't about that for you,is it .

You claim Cblast is some sort of con man.I've talked at length with him over time.I've had him here.At my home.Your claims about 'his not working with you' or whatever just don't JIBE with the Cblast I met and worked with.

Maybe you're jealous he has friends?IDK.

Silly boy...tricks are for kids.

Why do I even bother replying to you? You're like a 5yo in a store whining over candy. But I digress.

It's up to CBLAST if he wants to give me a refund. Flat out as I've maintained all along, CBLAST SOLD ME A PRODUCT/SERVICE, I BOUGHT IT, CAVEAT EMPTOR, HE OWES ME NOTHING. A REFUND, OR RETUNE, OR WHATEVER WOULD NOT IN ANY WAY INFLUENCE THESE TEST RESULTS. Requesting a refund or whatever is NOT what this thread was ever about. Someone else brought that up. This thread is about conducting a test, which was supported by a highly recognized industry expert who has more actual, verifiable experience than everyone else on this board combined INCLUDING Romans and Smoking. in the area of performance motorcycle tuning and those results and what it means to potential customers paying $400 for a flash product/service.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 10:56 AM

"You're like a 5yo in a store whining over candy"...LOL...I'm not the one whining about anything;).

"test results"...that's the issue here?Okay...so resolve it then.Do the work.Get it corrected or say goodnight.All the 'fluff' you've posted here has ZERO to do with getting results.If you're waiting to have someone else 'fix' this...I hope you brought your lunch.

You say you called...talked to C.Okay...and?He said.."F 0ff"?I don't THINK so.At lest TRY to have a semblance of honesty here...okay?It's insulting(not to me,but probably some here).Portraying(or trying anyway)to make us all out here as a bunch of 3 yr olds.Your 'story' of this whole deal simply doesn't add up.Not to people who actually KNOW Cblast.Or his product.


"which was supported by a highly recognized industry expert"...do tell.You didn't happen to be looking in the mirror when you typed this didja?


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 10:56 AM

"This just proves what kind of person CBlast really is. His passion is about $$$, not bikes. He'll tell you whatever it is you want to hear to get your $400"

Vic, you are wrong about C doing it for the money, he was going to do mine for free, but I insisted
on paying for it, how many times have you talked to C ? I have talked to him many many times, and many hours
he would text me in the middle of the night and tell me "I found something new" etc ... he would
stay up nights, I know his passion, wether you choose to believe this or not is up to you ...

Yes, C is my friend, but if you knew me like people that have known me for 40 years, they would tell
you I don't lie ....

Thats all, ride safe ....


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 11:02 AM

I'm beginning to see your avatar in a whole new light there Vic....LOL.Cute little kitty...for sure...but truthfully...just a kitten.Still seeing things as a kitten.

I think I'm starting to understand your reasons now for even getting a 14.Perhaps for your own safety...leave it stock;)You don't NEED a flash...ride it and enjoy it.Safely


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 11:24 AM

From Rook: I'd do a flash but I never could get my head around how fueling for some other bike could be perfect for every bike--same mods or not. Every engine is different and will benefit most from custom tuned fueling and possibly it's custom tuned timing. The rest, I say go ahead and flash if you feel little lucky.

From lytnin: That was the reason Ivan would flash a puter but could not make an almost perfect map for your bike that was away from his area. He wanted a dyno made map for your bike. He might get close which is what most hope for. Two same year bikes with the same mods on the same day dyno runs will have some different numbers in their maps.

Yup and why Romans is extolling the virtues of Auto-tune and PC5 even with a flash. Flashing is a new mod to ad to the list but it doesn't replace the old technology. Unless you have your own dyno and flash software, you still need a PC5 for best performance and you would be best to use a second ECU. That's a lot of damn money no matter ho you slice it. From what we've seen, a flash alone might not improve the performance.

Rook, I recall you maintaining and supporting the PCV/Autotune combo since forever. As I was learning more about flashing, and CBlast's "all-in-one" methodology, we disagreed (even strongly) because I supported CBlast's side that it made sense it could all be done all-in-one. I still do believe this (>98% performance), however I believe it would require someone with > skills than CBlast has to pull off.

CBlast promised the world, used a lot of vernacular ("smoothing", "finite math blah blah"), etc. to mystify the process. And who knows, maybe for him ECU flashing is that sophisticated. But it's not really, the flashing process is no more complicated than using Microsoft Word or installing a fairly sophisticated application. An application like WRT, is meant to be used by joe blow and average garage mechanics.

The TUNING process is where the difference is made. TUNING SKILLS is what someone is paying for, not to flash the ECU. How and why map and timing settings are changed, taking into account the small differences that are in every bike (air filter, fuel, exhaust, elevation, etc.). As said earlier in this thread (in a reply to Hub who basically stated this), I don't believe CBlast customized my tune based on anything I sent him, not even exhaust (keep in mind i have a 4-2-1 exhaust, not a 4-1 which is typical). I run 91 E0 in my 14. I included this information (run kaw air filter, 91 E0, Yosh R-77 4-2-1) in email(s) and in the letter sent with my ECU. Obviously he had my address, so he could tell average environmental conditions (avg temps/elevation, etc.) I do not for one minute believe that CBlast has any ability or understanding to make adjustments based on this information. This would be vital to the ECU flash tuning. Because without this ability for the tuner to adjust those maps for these particulars, to understand EXACTLY how these small differences change things, just as your saying, something like Autotune would have to come into play to create those final trims.

That's why I paid him $400, because I thought he did have this level of understanding. This is what people like Hub have said all along, that CBlast does not have this skill level. Maybe it's impossible for anyone to have this level of knowledge, I don't know.

So I give you kudos for really being right about the Autotune issue. Here's the thing, overall though it again remains a panacea vs. something like the CBlast flash until we have some verifiable befores and afters. I've actually thought about persuing other tuning options like an Ivan's package (with PCV, Autotune). But I'm quite honestly leary that in the end it still won't make much or any difference.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 11:34 AM

Vic, I have no idea why you feel the need to punctuate your points with negativity and assumptions that you can have no idea about.

This one time I will entertain you and provide you with an answer.

No deal was made with anyone.
And no threats were made.
This was a matter resolved between two parties and no one else.
Yes, there were some frank discussions but in the end a full refund was provided with no conditions attached.

Mistakes can be made by anyone. We all make them. Its a human trait. But its how these mistakes are worked through that matter.
In the end the right thing was done for me as the customer so why would I publicly speak poorly about that party?
I appreciated the resolution and therefore you will never hear that persons name from me.

If it was all tantamount to a mistake, then why even bring it up at all? That people aren't perfect? Ok fine, Yannih next time we're in this discussion you need one post "People aren't perfect." There that's as much as you need to say because of what you're saying/not saying.

What happened to this being informative and fun?

I performed the testing because that's the kind of thing I enjoy doing. The test results were never intended to be "for fun". This is serious business. We're talking about the exchange of goods and services, and what someone might expect the difference for this particular good/service to make.


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 11:43 AM

"I thought he did have this level of understanding. This is what people like Hub have said all along, that CBlast does not have this skill level". Gotta hand it to ya Vic...you're trying;).


"I performed the testing because that's the kind of thing I enjoy doing. The test results were never intended to be "for fun". This is serious business. We're talking about the exchange of goods and services, and what someone might expect the difference for this particular good/service to make"...well shit man...make up yer mind will ya?.I equate 'enjoy' with 'fun'....you don't?No matter.Your comment about 'skill level' and C not having it...you're now showing us all here you expertise at mind reading,yes?Just wanted to clarify that for myself.Did you EVER consider...MAYBE...your bike is displaying some performance issues you aren't aware of...flash or no.

You didn't dyno it at any time prior to the ECU swap...so really...how DO you know it's okay?No compression tests(as per Hubmiester)...no leakdown tests...nada...nothing.


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10/03/15 11:56 AM

I equate 'enjoy' with 'fun'....you don't?

There's no doubt in my mind you can't possibly conceiving enjoying anything work like. Undoubtedly, you toiled away in some shitty factory job for 30 years and hated every day of it as you pressed the little green button and loaded and unloaded parts every 77.8 seconds. Or if it wasn't some factory job, whatever it was, you did it only because you got a little piece of paper every week which in turn you could exchange for some more little green pieces of paper.

Grn, every day I go into work I love it. Even when things are rough sometimes, i'm still having a fun. See I enjoy what I do for a living. Yes it's work, but it's work I want to do. I'm sorry you'll never know that joy. So this testing was no different, I did the testing because it's something I enjoy doing but the results were not "just for fun". Again you won't understand. But I'll keep saying it anyway.

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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 1:49 PM

"Again you won't understand. But I'll keep saying it anyway"...of course you will...if for no other reason than to see if you can rock my boat.

"There's no doubt in my mind you 'can't possibly conceiving' enjoying anything work like"...""I performed the testing because that's the kind of thing I enjoy doing. The test results were never intended to be "for fun"."

To each his own.

I honestly do think however that the 400 you spent on C's flash might have been better spent on some 'mind reading 101' refresher courses.And possibly a tune up on your writing skills.


"'can't possibly conceiving'"...nice.That's a clearly understandable sentence there.;)An ongoing display of your...'superior intellect'.


Vic says.."If it was all tantamount to a mistake, then why even bring it up at all?".....because he was being civil and giving YOU an answer.YOU brought it up...he simply responded.


Take those meds Vic...they can help...I think.

You know...in all this bashing and trashing other people here Vic...I honestly can't get WHY you're trying SOOOO hard to defend yourself.Over something THIS trivial.Over this issue of 'cblast is an ass and cheat' thing.That he's surrounded with 'Mafioso' type friends and all that..Just exactly what ARE you trying to 'prove' here?

Telling people what they think...or are about...or whatever.Don't you have a life or something?This is the big part of your day to come on here and insult people...knowing you're safe behind that keyboard?

Whatever floats yer boat as they say.Seems kinda sad to me really.


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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 5:02 PM

Yannih said "Vic, I have no idea why you feel the need to punctuate your points with negativity and assumptions that you can have no idea about."

It's so simple... Vic is just a hate-filled person, so that's what comes out. I just couldn't live that way, honestly. He looks for ways to become offended, then spews offence at everyone else. Garbage in, garbage out... just like his 'testing' technique... lol

Look how he tries to shit on everyone. Even those that agree with him to some degree get the VicVenom spit at them. It's both pathetic and sad.

Vic, just call Sebastian and ask for a refund. Until you do that, it's all on you.



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RE: CBlast Vs Stock ECU...finally done!
10/03/15 8:27 PM

"Vic, just call Sebastian and ask for a refund. Until you do that, it's all on you"...I think your 'observation' about Vic is pretty accurate.I'd only add one of my own...Vic doesn't WANT a refund.He wants to attack and besmirch another person.On the forum,almost any forum...that's 'safe' and simple.Just let out some poison...then kick back and watch the others go Koo Koo.

Guys like Vic are a dime a dozen on the internet.Sorry to have to say that.

I think MOST guys join a forum to feel connected and a part of.To share stuff and be positive towards others.

This isn't Vic's deal.Apparently.I'd have to say...he's belittled and said something derogatory about almost everyone here.Anyone who's ever commented in one of his posts anyway.Some people thrive on negative attention.I'd say...the darts he throws out at others here are really his feelings about himself.

If a guy has an issue...comes on and states it...then get all sorts of positive solutions...doable solutions...and still stays stuck...he really isn't interested in a solution.So that's where that's at.

There's really nothing more can be said from me about this.

I'm no psychologist.Nor a mind reader.But I think I've lived enough life to see what's happening here.

This my friends...is Bullshit.All of it.From the 'test' all the way to now.

Anyone even KNOW if any ECU swapping went on?At least in my video...I filmed the WHOLE process from installing the Cblast to the removal and swap back to stock in ONE time frame...non-stop...so it could be shown that there was no trickery going on.None of us here KNOW whether he changed em or not.I suspect...NOT.


You guys tell me...the Cblast ECU is performing just exactly like stock.Apparently his was...watching the vids.There's NO difference in the two.It's clear there isn't.Video proof it isn't different.The ONLY thing that's missing...is the video of the swapping.That's the missing proof right there...of which...we all have none.And never will I'd venture to say.


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