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Thread: The Cblast Flash: NO LONGER AVAILABLE

Created on: 06/05/14 12:00 AM

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Hub


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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/28/15 8:11 AM

See me with a narcssistic photo look at me? However you perceive things call me a mirror. Hang a sign on me I hang it right back on you.

One more time... No Cflash complaints. No banner, no Cblast. Plenty of family members to choose from. You seemed to be more obsessed with me and I can't tell if Vic is running second? See that drama coming out on your end I ask a simple question?

WATT EYE am looking at is a flash: do not place a member's/tuner's/any human associated to the flash. Ready?

1. Flashed.
2. Code 39.
3. ECU recoverable.

Now back to humans and their drama. I'm looking at an absolute. Insignificant to you gent, but more puzzles to the pieces about the bike, tuning a box or an injector. You inhale huge amounts of rpm, force microns past that pleat, have yet to check compression and I am done with this daily.



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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/28/15 8:37 AM

Thanks so much for all the comments and support gentleman. Really means a lot. I haven't left, just been swamped and burning the candle at both ends. Lots of bikes and tuning, lots of prep work for the upcoming race season and the dirt-track season that has already started here in Washington. Big shout out to all the guys and again, thank you all for the continued support.

Found a nice day monday, in the low 50's, got and tore it up a bit. 4th gear is a freakin monster. We tuned a beautiful Indian the other day. That sucker made 108ft.lbs everywhere. Sounded sweet and looked great from many angles.



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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/28/15 4:51 PM

C I would have posted, but I knew what you were working through, I did not want to say anything about it, for fear I might disrespect you. Discretion is big, goes both ways. Glad you're back in top form ole' buddy. Welcome home.

Hubby you're one classy guy, we know most of what u say is argumentative not malicious. Even if it is maliciously argumentative. Lol. And it looks like u picked up some parasite fish of your own (folks who lurk - wait till you post and attack - thereby living off the posts of their host). Just remember parasites, if the host dies, so do you! That said I was at one time thinking you latched onto the chost. Lol

Some of the one liners on here TrailBoss are truly delicious .


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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/28/15 5:04 PM

Cheer's C good to hear from you!

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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/28/15 5:06 PM

I can't tell if Vic is running second?

I like 2nd in a lot of vehicles, but tbh 4th is probably my fav. Just something magical how the tach and speedo movie synchronously.

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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/28/15 10:47 PM

Trail...."not some pissant internet troll"

Hub...'Turn around and you'll see Lots of members with lots of family and lots of passion for speed and what's your point?'...Hubster...you bit;)WTF?Surely you saw this move coming up....say you did...pleaseLOL!!!


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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/28/15 11:34 PM

"Surely you saw this move coming up....say you did...pleaseLOL!!!" Oh I saw it, Grn. I just let it lay. I had something laid out like one of them there trackday trolls that collect dust at the same track every weekend or whenever. Thinking they are going to cater to the stars like wolfdown puck, but those troll tracker types are just local yeehaws flipping burgers at a, can't drive diners and dives. Fucking air cleaner flap'inn fiber filtronics thumb over the the engine boot checking for compression trollers if they check at all.



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Wolfman



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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/29/15 4:07 AM

^^
Hubtionary please.







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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/29/15 4:08 AM

flap'inn fiber filtronics thumb over the the engine boot checking for compression trollers if they check at all.

Great line!







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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/29/15 5:48 AM

Hope all is good C, i will have 3 or so ECU's boxed up next month for tou, 1- 2012 1-2010 & 1-2009 could be more by though!



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RE: The Cblast Flash
01/29/15 7:38 AM

Well I followed her thru the manual with the"Fucking air cleaner flap'inn fiber filtronics thumb over the the engine boot checking for compression trollers if they check at all"blues my works in vain .....sung to the tune of Love in Vain,hub your a star



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LimeyHooligan


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RE: The Cblast Flash
02/06/15 6:08 PM

Sent my ECU off today, looking forward to it!



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RE: The Cblast Flash
02/16/15 3:20 PM

Sent mines of 2 days ago. Cant wait!!



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RE: The Cblast Flash
02/21/15 8:15 AM

Another one of the converted CBlast faithful!!

Took her for the first spin last night with the newly-installed ECU, and she's a different animal alright. The best thing I like is: smooth, smooth, smooth. It kinda reminds me of a 2-stroke motor, less resistance and just more willingness to rev up. More/ample power across the rev range now, quicker and crisper throttle response and she's ready to "snap" forward at a moment's notice. I think I literally did feel my face being compressed on some of those acceleration runs... lol. She'll annihilate just about anything on the road now, bring it on!!

Nice work Mr. Sebastian sir. To those on the fence about this, listen to Nike and "Just Do It". Awesome tune, period!!


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Mods so far:
CBlast Flash - Woooooooo!
Brock's Alien Head Black Ceramic Exhaust System
DDM Tuning HID Low Beams
ZG Double Bubble Windscreen
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RE: The Cblast Flash
02/25/15 8:46 AM

Thanks all!!! Awesome! Welcome to the Cblasted family! Here's to the power hungry!



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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/01/15 7:35 AM

Ive been CBLASTED!! Havent been able to ride Madonna yet due to below freezing temps and icy streets but I was able to install the ECU and fire her up.. WOW!! She definitely has a deeper sound or bark as I call it.. I love Muzzy M10 exhaust even more now.. I didnt wanna turn it her off. Lol. Even when i rev the engine i could seriously feel and hear the difference. All that and I havent even rode her yet!!! CBLAST you are the man!!! I will write another comment after I ride her which hopefully will be soon!



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johnnytest



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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/04/15 9:09 PM

Dear CBlasters & ZX-14 forumers,

If I understand correctly, the CBlast uses the bike's sensors to set AFM properly. This is a "closed loop" system where fuel is adjusted to keep the AFM at "optimum". The closed loop system should be insensitive to various mechanical changes such as exhaust system upgrade. The assumption is that the bike's sensors work "perfectly" or close to it to set the AFM. If not, sensor malfunction could provide the closed loop system with erroneous information and can possibly cause "non-optimum"/ far-from-optimum AFM. I am not sure the CBlast has sensor monitoring etc... to detect, annunciate, or compensate for sensor malfunction.

The Kawa and Guhl and others, appear to rely on an open loop system. That is, they tune fuel delivery for a fixed mechanical configuration (cams, pistons, heads/valves, intake, exhaust, ignition timing, etc...) and very little use of sensor data for AFM adjustment. In an open loop system there is a lot less reliance on sensors except to possibly "fine tune" the AFM. Sensor failure should not incapacitate the bike and neither should slow degradation of sensors. Additional "open loop" fine tuning is provided by power commander.

I guess if every works just right, a closed loop system should outperform an open loop system. But an open loop system, while possibly not as optimized, should be more resilient to sensor malfunction.

So, I'm wondering, how does CBlast handle sensor malfunction, aging, and similar?

Maybe the best balance is using closed loop when sensors work well and then back off to open loop if sensor malfunction is detected. I suppose sensor malfunction can be detected if sensor operation is well-known and compared against actual sensor operation, malfunction could be declared and a fall-back to open loop could happen. Maybe both closed and open loop systems are needed. I am a bit worried about total reliance on a heavily biased closed loop system because sensors do fail eventually and I certainly don't want to be replacing sensors as a precaution. I dunno, I haven't heard much discussion about this aspect and hope you all can chime in.

All the best,
Johnny.

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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/05/15 8:30 AM

Are you implying that you would choose to continue to operate your motorcycle with faulty sensors? Or are you just concerned about being stranded, should they fail during a long trip?



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Hub


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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/05/15 12:22 PM

Johnny, we in open loop are 'load based' as in the intake vacuum is the load and the throttle position is other number to compute for load demand to throttle opening. That's open loop.

In closed loop, we have an 02 sensor that senses air not fuel. So when fuel is entered, this throws off what air it was reading in sort of a glow plug kind of way. The fuel hits the glow [inside] and cools the tip outside. There is your ping in heat to value. The glow plug is like a toaster in a fixed position and the glow goes right back to its heat range and ping, another slam to the floorboards, cooler even still, do something opposite! This sends a math computation to send the fuel metering to richen or lean the system vs rpm speed demand. Same principal we see vacuum demand and a thermometer in the intake, no glow, just push the merc in the tube and [move up to] cool the hot wire tip going up to the ECU kind of meguyver hub x-ray into that sensor. This is how it sees demand and adjusts 'off of a' fixed setting. So a glow plug (say a car's MAF = mass air flow) is in the intake and says, 'oh it's cold out, lets run the number in a math to electrically run opposite to watt is coming in. It's a pulse of a resistance to change the number to change the fuel flow. Send it up the wire to the INPUT side. For argument sake, rich uses a high value and lean runs a low value of electrical inputs from a sensor. I feel cold air that hits my glowing toaster kind of looking proportional outside that MAF cage so you won't burn yourself is that wire sending in a number like a bulb is fixed to the watts, fixed to 12v and it's a steady glow, yes? Theory says up the wire are many numbered INPUTS from that wire sensor cooling it, where the molecules expand/contract along with the ambient condition and now it's lean to match an expanded air to fuel ratio, or richens to meet the cold air cooling an electrical number the processor now can compute off this base number.

Enter the powercommander. This unit has the ability to use an 02 sensor. The wide band call it, can detect the quality of tune in a faster way so the driveability is in check and the fuel trim is not going to run rich like a carb with a fixed jet. If we climb up a mountain with less air to mix with the fuel, we run rich with the carb. The O2 detects less air and sends in less fuel. It's a simple opposite kind of electrical move. Man can manipulate the fueling via an electrical system that can sense(or) heat change and this can be measured.

So as the 02 can be fixed for 14.7 or stoic [theory is zero emissions if stoic] then the map can be fixed to run any AFRatio. So the powcomdr is mapped at 12.9:1 ratio is the base map. That is now running open loop as no autotune (02) is being used. When the autotune takes it from there and refines the map numbers to this sort of seat of the pants, it's a better tuning status to the change [following] the environmental condition it's in.

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As far as the sensors go, the 02 is being slowly eaten away and the carbon to rust to condensation to its environment it lives, this would be something like a deteriorating sensor. The rest of the parts are pretty much bulletproof like a radio with the same parts its motherboard basically. And look how long those tubes last to now transistors... A looooong time.

However, heat thru them is going to burn thru the weakest link. So far, it's 8 years of a top model run and I do not hear component failure around here. So lets say we take out the 02 as an example. It just converted to open loop, yes? No sensor to monitor the fuel to air going past it. This is now in backup or open loop and where does our western 14 run at? 14a about. Where does the euro run at? 14a about give or take stoic. And thru the PAIR? 16a.

Say we fail at the throttle sensor, and vacuum [both] go out at the same time. There is this backup system call 'Method.' The bike now runs off of the absolute atmospheric pressure number called 1 atm, 760mmHg, 101.3... So there is a low to mid, mid to high kind of 0 to redline safe fueling. And between that line is the method used on both sides of low to mid and mid to high throttle openings. Same method saves open as is closed. Both use the math against the penultimate number... 14.7.

How close am I?



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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/05/15 3:55 PM

Hi Hub,

That's a pretty good description.

My worry was would the various ecu flashes accounted for deteriorating sensors as the sensors live their lives on the engine. My other worry was if that the AFM heavily depended on sensor function then AFM may be adversely affected and potentially affect the engine, not just performance.

Hi BigBloke,

My question was of a general nature, not a specific "found on road dead" type of question. Just trying to understand best way I can.

Ciao,
johnny.

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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/14/15 7:58 AM

I am next in line joining the CBlast faithful! Sent it out today!

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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/17/15 5:26 PM

All done and flashed Vic! Fired her up and she sounds fantastic! Welcome to the Cblasted family bud! WOT!



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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/17/15 5:37 PM

Next........



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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/17/15 5:45 PM

All done and flashed Vic! Fired her up and she sounds fantastic! Welcome to the Cblasted family bud! WOT!

Awesome man!!!!! Super excited can't wait!!!1!

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RE: The Cblast Flash
03/31/15 5:23 PM

Well I finally got a chance to ride my 2008 since it got flashed. Feels like it has a 4 barrel carb with manual secondary's. Kinda picks up fast after that,


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