He ran a basic flash cause he runs a PCV. Where is this fact comin from that the stock clutch slips at above 200. Prove that. My clutch is fine at the top of sixth. I have done it many times straight IN FRONT OF FORUM MEMBERS HERE. I'm damn sure I hit 200 on the way home from the track with Pirate a couple weeks back. My clutch holds great. He saw it as I melted 6th and I have never felt any slip. And I would. I do it often enough. Actually do it. Not talk and speculate. They pulled out that bike and ran MR12 cause Cap was stunning everyone to that point. They couldn't let a first timer take em to school like he was. And he did. His machine did more runs ABOVE 200mph with different riders THAN ANY OTHER MACHINE THAT SHOWED UP. Period. That's dominant consistent performance. 14 runs over 200 and he could have ridden his bike home after. This isn't a contest between a PCV and a flash. It's a joke. Wake up.

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* Last updated by: Cblast on 9/7/2014 @ 11:58 AM *

Not talk and speculate. They pulled out that bike and ran MR12 cause Cap was stunning everyone to that point. They couldn't let a first timer take em to school like he was. And he did.

Apples = She/ane goes out first time, sp-ends the whole day @ 201 mph, if I recall, or was it, take home a 199.&change? That's Pig/basic Flash/47mm, correct?
Oranges = Right off the trailer 203, and the whole day goes by that ends @ 207 mph, if I recall? That's flash only.

Huge apples to oranges. I did fold out my blankey for bed, woke up on page 5-20 and said, 'no one has touched you yet, have they?'

Cblast Brock proved the clutches slip on the dyno and track and I proved it as well as many other drag racers .. It's a known FACT !!! Just with the clutch mod (Spring and shims ) I picked up 3 to 4 MPH in the 1/4 mile and so has everyone that installed them .. You just proved you know nothing just as I thought ..

Careful where you tread Cblast or I may just post your flash .

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 9/7/2014 @ 2:59 PM *

I picked up 3 to 4 MPH in the 1/4 mile and so has everyone that installed them .. You just proved you know nothing just as I thought ..

Careful where you tread Cblast or I may just post your flash.

I'm not even going to touch that one.

Hub Rachael's bike ( the green one ) had nothing but the speed limiter removed , upped the RPM limiter and defalt for the T/C set .. Her Bike had stock TBs (44s).. Just a pipe and P/C with a brocks map adjusted by Shane based on his Bike and his passed LSR data ..It did not have the mods that Capt10ed or Shanes other bike had ..Clutches on the zx14r slipping in the 1/4 mile and 1 mile is very common , it can't be felt but it shows up in loss of MPH .. Capted10ed bike had Brocks clutch mod . Capt10ed did all the right things based off the info he got from other LSR guys before going to the mile .. Good planning on his part .. Shane helped him at the track with a few things , that what LSR guys do as well as drag racers .. Hub yes as far as my bike nobody has come close to my numbers yet either on MR12 or pump gas ..My bike proves if you have the right set up no matter if it's tuned in the P/C it will run numbers ..A/F is A/F and if it right it's right .. In my mind I feel tuning the fuel with the ECU has to be better than the P/C but at this point nobody has proved it .. I have all the woolich stuff and his pro log box and auto tune set up ..I also have all the flashes , yes all the flashes. So far nothing magical in any of them, no easy button ..No tricky math ..In fact some of these flashes are just copies of flashes that have been out for a long time ..If at some point I test one of these flashes with fueling proves it's worth it will be in my bike.. Will I remove the P/C ? No .. It's still a easy to use track tuning tool ..

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 9/7/2014 @ 3:42 PM *

..I also have all the flashes , yes all the flashes. So far nothing magical in any of them, no easy button ..No tricky math ..In fact some of these flashes are just copies

:::WOW, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO MAKE A STATMENT LIKE THAT AS FAR A FLASHING GO'S...EVERY ONE ELSE THAT HAD THEM DONE HAVE ONLY GOOD THING TO SAY.........THIS IS FOR INFORMATION ONLY

SlowmoZX14 I didn't say these flashes didn't work or don't run well ..But can you tell the difference between a 10th of a second and 2 MPH in the 1/4 mile with your butt dyno ? Well I can't .. But the clocks and MPH traps can ..I think 99% of the guys out there will be happy with any flash or P/C tune , they both help and I will not tell them what flash to use just as I would not tell you what color bike to buy or what pipe to buy ..The 1% left are drag racers and LSR guys where every bit of MPH and ET count ..Now if you want your bike to run like mine you just need to copy what I used , that is the only sales tool I need ..As Bill Cosby said " proof is in the pudding "

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 9/7/2014 @ 3:55 PM *

Well, since you have all the maps, Smoke, who's map cuts the cheeze w/out pc? You must be saying, they all default to this narrow torque band, but Don's seems to pull the best?

OR...

They all default to the same but with the map I use, they all break even with my map.

OR...

Don and C have almost equal power, but C has the edge.

OR...

The only way to tell any difference (I can't tell either) was to gather all these maps and low and behold, Don Guhl came to the top of the heap and now for 2 mph and a 10th of a second, Alex, I'll take 'The tuning combo to date' for $400.... IS?????

* Last updated by: Hub on 9/7/2014 @ 5:38 PM *

As far as I know, it's smooth, feels like a smoother hack without a code popped, but still a default kind of limp. And might I say, getting off my ass so the next test is out of the way, I might have mentioned just the other day, I went after a 16.5a at the GPS. This is the [obtw] rich cut so the decel pop is not as pronounced.

However, them days is over. Both wires hacked as one and then both on their own: produced the same stock 18a on lift. That also produced a flashing k-skid bar on the dash where F-off resides and seemed to almost limp the limp on the double hit of the GPS. Again, some sort of change only the dyno could decipher.

So back to more hacks I know about and it's not looking good since the ABS/k-skid appears to be a new problem finding that 16.5a. Again, I zbomb the R, I go right into limp and will I find 16.5a that way? I'll be again, limped in the half of the a-N/D-J backup. And can I feel more power [when stock?] seat of the pants? It sure seems like it to me. Maybe it's that torque spreading out that 2 mph?

All good questions Hub and I'm not going to answer till I have all the facts ( data ) ..I'm going to retest all the flashes this fall and winner takes all .. I don't care who's name is on it , if it fast i'll post it ..One of the flashes has something done to it that worries me , that flash will be used but with great caution on my part ..Don't ask what flash it is , I will not give anyone a bad feed back till I can prove it ..I will not do what Cblast did to Don ,Bashing him was unfair and total wrong ..

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 9/7/2014 @ 7:08 PM *

You run a bike on a dyno how many times before slip?? Get the clutch to slip after how many runs? Or what abuse before and after? How many oil changes after how many hard runs? And this constitutes your proof that the zx-14r clutch is prone to slip? Hahaha. That's a joke.
Maybe the clutch benefits from stiffer springs or removal of the slipper for consistent lock-up under drag launch conditions. But none of that makes it a proven fact that the stock clutch fails consistently at high speed. That is bull shit. I have seen some of these clutches slip after abuse or prolonged dyno time, and I have also seen them stand up to wayyy more than we think is possible. Treat it right. Use it right. Maintain it and it can last a long time. Pickin up consistency and mph doesn't mean the stock clutch was slipping on top, just means the 'kitted' clutch locked up more consistently for you. Period.
As to my treading lightly, post whatever flash you think you have of mine up. I haven't tread lightly since day 1. I will not start now. Go fuck yourself. Threats don't scare me one iota. That about clear that up for ya.

Ok cblast you started the name calling not me , Keep that in mind sonny boy .. You clearly know nothing that is very clear .. Go ahead keep it up and you will put yourself in the hole all by yourself.. I will not even have to kick any dirt on you , you are going a fine job all by yourself ..

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 9/7/2014 @ 7:15 PM *

Careful where you tread Cblast or I may just post your flash.

I didn't sell you one, so either you had a third party hack my flash, or you hacked a customers ecu that had one, or misrepresented yourself directly to obtain one. That speaks to a solid integrity failure in my mind. I have seen inside all the flashes out there. Saw what direction they took as a point of interest. But I don't collect them. No need. And it's stealing. If you know what you are doing you don't steal others work. Period. I have never once copied a single digit of anothers flash. Can you say the same?
The flashes that Nels and I make for customers are tailored to spec for that customer based on exhaust config., etc.
So again, post up whatever ya want. You don't have an arrow in your quiver that could scare me.

* Last updated by: Cblast on 9/7/2014 @ 8:26 PM *

I didn't name call you. I called you an integrity violator. And I am not your 'sonny boy'. That's someone else's problem. How many ecu's have you FRIED again??? I haven't fried a single one. But I'm the lost one? Hahahaha
And I have never EVER run a flash I did not PAY for honestly. I'm not a fuckin thief. If you have a cblast flash you didn't pay for, you owe Nels and I $200 apiece. We take paypal. Make it right at your convenience. Show your integrity. Man up. Hahahahahaha. You don't have it in you.

* Last updated by: Cblast on 9/7/2014 @ 7:50 PM *

.One of the flashes has something done to it that worries me , that flash will be used but with great caution on my part ..Don't ask what flash it is , I will not give anyone a bad feed back till I can prove it ..I will not do what Cblast did to Don ,Bashing him was unfair and total wrong ..

As to my treading lightly, post whatever flash you think you have of mine up

Careful where you tread Cblast or I may just post your flash.

Would be funny if it was the same one Don got. Post it up, it'd only take a split second to tell.

* Last updated by: fatsix on 9/7/2014 @ 7:30 PM *

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This is a classic example where if people don’t learn a thing or two on how to interact with the public, they would fail as businessmen if they don’t manage their anger. The arrogance, anger and hostility spewed forth out of control, the superiority complex, the name calling when people disagree is simply unprofessional from someone trying to cash in selling a product. It is a mystery to me how people can support a person who likes to bash other providers. Even Roman’s was insulted, a guy that has contributed so much to this forum.

If a product is good, let the numbers do the talking. There is no need to fly off the handle and run around the forum insulting other providers and shoving the product down other people's throats.

This is a guy that cannot even perform a simple routine check-up on his own drive chain to take a trip cross-country, and then gets stranded 500 miles into the trip.

I think this is my last comment on this forum for a while. Adios, see you guys around.

Let the insults begin in ....3....2....1....

Goodnight kofla.

Well I have all the flashes because people want me to test them , I don't ask for them , they send them to me ..Same thing happens to all flashes over time .. If you are unhappy I have it talk to the guys that you sold them to not me ..I don't copy anyone's flash yours included .. looked at it yes .. I'm not in the flashing business nor do I want to be ..Pay you lol ... Pound sand ... lol ...Pay for something I didn't ask for lol .. Pound sand again .. I told you a long time ago I would test your flash Vs my set up and if it ran faster I would post it , if it runs slower I would post that also ..I told you that on the phone also as well as on line ..Your answer to that was great !! Sure I'd love for you to test it, just send me 475.00 dollars and your ECU ..Really ? My time just like yours is money , testing your ECU flash would take at least four trips to the track , wear and tear on clutches and tires ..track time cost money , fuel cost money Ect.. And if your flash works you make money and for my hard work I get the flash for my costs of testing it ..If it didn't work you make less money and I'm out money for testing it .. But I was willing to do it .. I was going to test the ECU with your flash I have setting here and post up about it ( good or bad ) hoping it was good because in the end I want to go faster not slower .. Your call here Cblash you want me to test your flash I have ? If not say so and I will send it back without testing it ..

* Last updated by: Smokinzx14 on 9/7/2014 @ 8:45 PM *

So which is better... PCV or flash??

Fazer the answer is in my sig below ..Flash with a P/C for now is the fastest , is it the best ? yes for now it is till something else beats it ..

Your call here Cblash you want me to test your flash I have ? If not say so and I will send it back without testing it ..

I never sent it to you. Who knows what you have. It wasn't obtained through me. And back when you made that offer we never got to have a convo on the phone. We phone tagged and both got busy and neither I nor you followed up. Everyone wants to get free flashes to test. I never solicited your 'testing'. You asked me for a free one to test. My answer to that is the same as it was back then. The cost of the cblast flash is $400. If you would like to test it, purchase it, and ride it. That's how this works. I don't give 'free ones'. I never ask for anything free either.

* Last updated by: Cblast on 9/7/2014 @ 8:57 PM *

Kofla, really ? you don't think C knows how to work on bikes ? the chain was something he said he
should have checked a little better, but why don't you ask Mike Velasco if C knows anything ?
you know freddie Spencer's mechanic ? the guy that actually tears engines apart and builds them ?

Adios,

Ok Cblast it was your call , I will send it back untested ..Not that big of deal to me but I would have done it if you said ok ..I'd even send you screen shots of the flash to make sure it was yours if you wanted , You stood more to gain than I did anyway ..It's ok I have other things to test anyway..

C, tell Smoke to run your ECU, because you should be taking on all comers. That's how I'd whatever or however he received it, it's all about 'sales.' So for one freebee offer to put your flash up against the others, with a most competent rider (IMO), it's the perfect storm. So, show him you are confident about your product and give him your blessing.

Magazines are always receiving freebees or are loaned product [bikes] to test. It goes with the industry. It can be written off. Consider it a write off for taxes.

* Last updated by: Hub on 9/7/2014 @ 9:58 PM *