So when do we start talking about JEFFO...................

sniker sniker sniker

When you see the phone vid

Everybody is INN it

Yea, I wonder what Ivan's take is on Jeffo's tuning methodology. Ivan spends a lot of time on the dyno and out on the road to get the mapping right, Jeffo just calls you on his iPhone and fiddles the numbers.

Who is Motero, I've been away for awhile? Grn says it's just Hub using a different IP address.

If it is Hub, you can't tell by the language, Motero sounds...... coherent...LOL!

It's getting confusing, I don't know who's who anymore and if they're even legit. LIke I said, you can't pay for this kind of entertainment!

I'd love to show you the phone cut alone. You have to remember, I'm tearing up other websites playing with the ultimate question. The mighty "Run Her UP HER's!" IS the game here. I ask a tech question, I'm feeling out the forum, is now days and days of fucking up the forum is the POOR OP in the background waiting for it all to end.

How universal is that?

It's getting confusing, I don't know who's who anymore...

I just bought a GoPro cam and I'm gonna post some videos of te new 14r workin her majic , I'm scheduled to race my old 06 zx14 , a rematch with the 2011 zx10r that beat me ,and a stock 2008 busa , Im gonna clean some clocks :) , hey hub do you still race street or track ?? Or do you just put your bike around town ??? The new 14r is very fast , not too much faster mid range although you can feel the extra torque but up top there's no comparison , I'm gonna make some vids goin through the gears

Hub don't putt... Old race number goes on, and look out!... No shit.

Whos fuellie??

Fuellie is injfuel ~ The one with the hubcap sign. This bike above has Ivan written all over it. We have history. He taught me how I could walk and see how a Boeing engineer could put it on paper and did it walk. It walked as he talked. I was kind of there so it was easy to see the steps evolve. I thank Ivan for that. Danno would be interested in it. He was explaining how dynojet does it. However, it wasn't in the map sort of way. We were under the hood looking for my answer.

So Ivan, if you haven't been around, a few are curious about the guy mentioned above this page? You call him on the phone and he walks you thru a few keystrokes. Remember, all I did was page thru my friend's training guide, looking for the grail. No find there, nor the 'adjustment and procedure' manual either. You should have those books if you update with the commander center's seminars. Expensive!

Anyway, the caller hangs up, the keyboard starts ringing posts of praise as if they cloned another Ivan is the way they speak. Is he adjusting the 0 to 100 keyboard style?; where you find that X to Y with a running WOT, correct? That is one scenario.

The other scenario is, does he turn on their accel? How could he find 14 or 15 14's in his area to have one pipe combo, one air cleaner, slips, and the list goes on, but he cleans up the customer's map and they are all smiles here.

Never owned a PC. Don't know my way around one. No need for my age to get in trouble with more hp unless it comes out of a crate.

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/14/2012 @ 6:22 PM *

DUDE WHAT DID YOU DO TO THAT BIKE !!!!!! IT LOOKS LIKE A SCIENCE EXPERIMENT

Every wire tells a story. One at a time it just evolved and kept going. You haven't seen all the toggles on the other side. Most of it is gone. Putting back together. Time for an R.

Dam Hub, that poor thing looks like it's been tore up from the floor up...lol! Even looks like you got it on an IV drip, sure hope it survives it's stay in the hospital.

* Last updated by: Kruz on 6/15/2012 @ 1:02 PM *

Every wire tells a story. One at a time it just evolved and kept going. You haven't seen all the toggles on the other side. Most of it is gone. Putting back together. Time for an R.

Hub, sorry bro but that looks like an electricians nightmare. Best reason I've seen yet not to buy a used motorcycle.

If you buy the R, do yourself a favor and just ride the dam thing.

@Hub: after seeing that pic I will quote Robert Shaw in Jaws, "He's either very smart or very dumb".

Hub does that to all his bikes......and he'll do the same to an R if he gets one. Anybody have a link to the full shot of his bike with his stormtrooper helmet on the seat? If only these new guys could have seen some of hubs x-rated "bike" vids he posted on the old site Lets just say he has a german accent and likes to wear gloves and play with dildo puppets......some of the old timers here have seen the vids...................and lived to tell about it

http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/12zx14.htm

Any #'s ??? Also can I ask if the Akrapovic Pipe shown in pic has the larger 2-1/4 header or is it still the same as Gen 1 ?

The Akra pipe is for the Gen 1 bike.... I checked the PDF's on Akra's website and the header tubes use the same diameter header tubes. collector sizes are the same as well. Just the 2012 Akra pipe has dual outlets so you can use it with their slip-ons. Most guys here in the states buy single pipes for this bike... it kinda sucks that unless you know what fits what, the average person will only see that Akra's 2012 offering is only dual and very expensive.

The "old" pipe is a great design and fits good too, doesn't cost an arm and a leg, and has a very linear curve for this bike.

Dyno chart here:
http://www.ivansperformanceproducts.com/12zx14.htm

Happy Fathers Day, :)

Ivan

* Last updated by: bgordon on 6/18/2012 @ 1:08 PM *

Ivan, nice info there!

One question though, If we get your flash, why do we also need the PC V? Or is the PC V only required for evry last ounce of power.
I am assuming your ECU flash includes proper fueling for aftermarket pipes, right?

I have seen his vids and his bike. Both are quite disturbing. Smart guy, bad communication skills. You will know whne he likes you when he talks normal.

Grn14, you have a PM. I hope you are the guy to tell my story.

5) My tuning program .
Throttle "quality" is flawless in the corners.... it makes rediculous power and good mileage as well with no flat areas
(no matter what you do with the throttle... even at low revs)

Ivan, does mean the fuel cut on decel is no longer a issue, No more back fire, No TRE 006A required ? Please say yes. Would be really nice if this is fixed inside ECU.

Every wire tells a story. One at a time it just evolved and kept going.

Heart Beat Monitor Required,,,,, poor girl must be upset with you. After surgery you going to sell her ,,,, Bad Hub lol

Ivan, does mean the fuel cut on decel is no longer a issue, No more back fire, No TRE 006A required ? Please say yes. Would be really nice if this is fixed inside ECU.

You are correct Rick, no TRE needed.... and it's available now.... I just did the final testing with it yesterday.

I have not incorporated the fuel map into the ECU because it doesn't translate exactly, and there are many fuel tables in there. (not saying that it can't be done)

The PC5 makes fueling great (enough to completely satisfy me and I'm really picky)... and offers adjustability at any dyno center, or the owner can use an autotune as well if he thinks that he needs to make changes.

If I were to attempt to incorporate the fuel map into the ECU, there would be no easy adjustability for the end user if they weren't satisfied for some reason.

Ivan

* Last updated by: Ivan on 6/27/2012 @ 6:31 AM *

Thanks for the update Ivan!

Thinking about getting a re flash very soon! Just thought "why not incorporate fueling and timing changes also".
Your comment about "many fuel tables" made me think,,,,, a PC V only makes changes across the whole board right? So, what I'm asking is if I wanted a new timing and fuel table added in to the ECU flash, I'm guessing you/they would only be changing one specific table.
Hope that Q made sense!

May have a few other Q's for you but I'll email you.

* Last updated by: davesxx01 on 6/27/2012 @ 11:25 AM *

PCV makes changes to the final determined injector rate (after all ECU internal calculations/compensations)

Putting a power commander map in is doable for the A/N part of the map (TPS vs. rpm)... translating it into the Speed density (MAP vs.rpm) is where it gets tricky... this is the small throttle openings part of the map... usually up to appx 15% throttle opening. There are ways to get this done, but, I have not tested it due to the best "guess nature" of the "translation.

When you are as picky as I am about how it runs at small throttle openings, throttle transitions mid-corner, fuel mileage, vibration.... all this is easily adjusted with the PCV. Getting the PCV from me will get you the map that I made for my ECU settings.... if you need to adjust anything, you have immediate access to it without having to send it back and lose more time. (and patience too)

As far as timing goes, there is only one timing table.... different sensors or modes selected will change the offset of the table.... so if you want lets say power level 2 to be a timing retard mode above 75% throttle for nitrous, this type of change is possible to do.

Personaly, I'm not a nitrous guy, nor do I want to be involved with it... I'm with 99% of everyone else who just wants their bike to run it's best without restrictions and the associated driveability issues that the EPA forces on everyone.

Ivan

I'm with 99% of everyone else who just wants their bike to run it's best without restrictions and the associated driveability issues that the EPA forces on everyone.

Right on, I "Ivanized" my Gen I ZX-14 back in 2006 and is the torquiest, smoothest, best running machine I own.

What about the latest Gen ZX-10R and ZX-6R, I own one of each and they're pretty much stock? Are you putting together a tuning package for either one?