Grn? Listen to the wisdom out there. Someone said, 'golden opportunity' will be yours for a measly 4 lousy strokes. Come one, grn... I'm pulling for you. Hag is pulling for you. There is a lot of pulling for you, grn. Even Cody gets a pull now and then. Way better than 4 strokes. I'm just saying, if we matched stroke for stroke... See watt dime saying?

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/12/2012 @ 4:13 PM *

Fuellie,

You were a pawn and I apologize again. Have you met, A.K.A:

GixxerJohn at the pond. He called out a fella as Grn called me out here.

Grn is my signature below. Who cares, they were getting bashed at another website by who I name, GAS'd here at this site. Anyway, there is some weird things that equally happen over at the other 14 site. My guess is he frequents both or more for all I know?

You come into the picture later. What I don't understand is, if the guy knows what he's talking about, is disrupting another website, it cannot be me in other words. His idea is to keep changing names or who knows what, but things were not right for some reason?

Why did I name this guy to go and sit down is he is too full of gaspeak. The other website was on his case for "Dangerous Info." No matter what, that is serious stuff, no? You weld, you take your welding serious? Safety? Especially a bike? Get serious? Understand the confrontation between both sites grn is creating?

I would run grn ragged back and forth at the other site, found out they were getting a monitor because of the chaos. I hardly go there, but something sent me there to check out a tech post. I'm not a, my color bike is faster than yours 300 pages later. That more is grn's level.

So, I was chasing the dailies and wound up here looking for grn. Saw your name. Can't reveal what I saw in an MO kind of way. My mistake., Again, apologies you getting in the middle of the dissing you've been missing. What you are witnessing is to get it right or set out the "The Terror" and show you what you just said. You have to be so right here. Right here is where Cody pisseD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~. That means I was trying to put out the word that the k-skid kidid it again! LOL

See, you telling me what Ivan told you may sound more greeie... So, it's thin ice here no matter what you say. If you like dangerous suggestions or whatever the pond saw... May Introduce to you now 2 words to get acquainted wit...

GAS'd: For, go and sit down. Too over your head in other words.
The K-Skid Kid: I have yet to see a mode switch in action with grn. So, his input is skeptical. You now have the heads up of the K-skid Kid. LOLOL

Fullie,

Dis says I was right about the K-skid Kid. I'm a dick paying for it. Hide the prop... or find grn in other word. Dis is what I call one of those GixxerJerks that is a runner upper for your respect is it? Have fun here. I sure do.

Ok hub , I only kept going with you cause I felt you thought I was somebody I wasn't , I don't make ripples in the pond :) , I like to help and be helped , I hope that if somebody is doin something they shouldn't that they stop

I felt you thought I was somebody I wasn't

I like to help and be helped , I hope that if somebody is doin something they shouldn't that they stop

Foly Huck!!!!! Geez, no onder why you have so many posts 7457... and the new guy has 71 posts as of now... LOL

!!

Here my Ivan has always taken care of me and I have nothing bad to say about him or his products they are the best around.

So what I'm trying to say is Ivan is the MAN IN MY BOOK!!

* Last updated by: Black1 on 6/12/2012 @ 9:45 PM *

Most of those are asking if the mode switch works around here?

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/12/2012 @ 10:12 PM *

Ivans products ROCK!! I've ran them and was extremely impressed

Foly Huck!!!!! Geez, no onder why you have so many posts 7457... and the new guy has 71 posts as of now... LOL

ROFL, but only Thirty Five Hundred are about Hub and Grn wanting to kill each other lol. Sorry boys could not resist. After

The HUB says..."Grn is my signature below. Who cares, they were getting bashed at another website by who I name, GAS'd here at this site. Anyway, there is some weird things that equally happen over at the other 14 site. My guess is he frequents both or more for all I know?
You come into the picture later. What I don't understand is, if the guy knows what he's talking about, is disrupting another website, it cannot be me in other words. His idea is to keep changing names or who knows what, but things were not right for some reason?
Why did I name this guy to go and sit down is he is too full of gaspeak. The other website was on his case for "Dangerous Info." No matter what, that is serious stuff, no? You weld, you take your welding serious? Safety? Especially a bike? Get serious? Understand the confrontation between both sites grn is creating?
I would run grn ragged back and forth at the other site, found out they were getting a monitor because of the chaos. I hardly go there, but something sent me there to check out a tech post. I'm not a, my color bike is faster than yours 300 pages later. That more is grn's level.
So, I was chasing the dailies and wound up here looking for grn. Saw your name. Can't reveal what I saw in an MO kind of way. My mistake., Again, apologies you getting in the middle of the dissing you've been missing. What you are witnessing is to get it right or set out the "The Terror" and show you what you just said. You have to be so right here. Right here is where Cody pisseD~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~. That means I was trying to put out the word that the k-skid kidid it again! LOL
See, you telling me what Ivan told you may sound more greeie... So, it's thin ice here no matter what you say. If you like dangerous suggestions or whatever the pond saw... May Introduce to you now 2 words to get acquainted wit...
GAS'd: For, go and sit down. Too over your head in other words.
The K-Skid Kid: I have yet to see a mode switch in action with grn. So, his input is skeptical. You now have the heads up of the K-skid Kid. LOLOL"....

Over at Bikeland...here's Speedgene....."I have to agree. Some fucknuts have squid written all over them. Then the poor author has to scold the fucknut. (I was searching for a clunk problem I'm having with a similar bike). This is one author answering the fucknuts on the net. Another dead end search to my problem, get a fucknut involved".(Parenthesis mine)

And HERE's MOTERO'S post...'I got 200 miles on my zzr 1400,and I really aint liking the downshift,clunky as fuk,with a big ol whack,
And it doesnt always shift down cleanly,maybe takes two attempts when going down quickly,
Any you guys find the gearbox the same?
If this is as good as it gets, im really disappointed"

MOTERO....HUB...Speedgene..GIXXERJOHN.Read his above post about 'what's going on".....and why does he keep talking about.."over at the pond".....there's a nutjob on this site...an actual psycho.Right here...on this forum...giving motorcycle advice and playing the master tech.THIS is some funny fuckin shit right here I'll tell what .

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/13/2012 @ 6:43 AM *

I wish someone would get me up to speed around here , every post gets more confusing , who is doing what to who ???? You guys ramble on about this grn guy , what does he do ??? I'm just trying to make sense of some sort of conflict here , Is it pertinent to getting info or help on this forum ? I mean is this guy compromising the purpose of this forum , which is to talk about our bikes and get help if needed , please she'd some light on this without being overly confusing , thanks

Usually, it is more I kid with motero"..Since when?He's been here what...one week...and now you're buddy buddy with him?You douche....another concocted 'member' here...phoney as shit...like you.Fake...Lying about who you are and where you are.I know the reason...believe me...it goes back to the 'clunk' you were determined to say was NO DIFFERENT than the 2011's and all...after I told ya it WAS different.From there on...you've been determined to 'try' and 'make an issue' out of the 14R's shifting and all...because I not only had one...buy said the shift quality was WAY better than the earlier bikes.Yes...that's exactly what this is about....I didn't forget...like the rest did.Nope...I waited,and read...and sure enough...you played right into it....showed all your cards.But it isn't just the shifting thing you're pissed about...it's ME...you don't like it that I own a 14R....that I talk rationally about it...and what I have found out about it since I've owned it....Connecting with other 14R owners here...motero NOT included...we BOTH know who HE is.Funny that his 'issue' was about a funky transmission deal...hell...nobody else was having it...except some 'guy' on my old forum...yeah...you didn't think I knew about THAT either.Deny it all you want..everyday...every post....but we both know WHY you've decided way back to disrupt and ruin this site and the other one..Here...it was "ask HUB'..taken away cause ya failed at making the section something good and honestly member friendly.Yeah.YOU fucked that up.Payback...for your fuckup you can't accept.Payback...over at bikeland for gettin yourself banned..Of course...you NEXT post will be all about me...and how you're some 'innocent' guy 'trying to help'....we both know...your contempt for virtually EVERYONE here is so thick it could be cut with a knife.You brownnose certain people here so you can appear to be a cool bud...you aint...you're a phoney.You don't like ANYONE here.You can blow smoke all day long...every day...365 days a year...24/7...I've got you.You know it...I know it.You will ALWAYS know that I've GOT YOU.All day...everyday...365 days a year...24/7.I know who you are..and WHY you're doing what you do.And it isn't about guys and bikes.And I aint mixing you up with some sort of troll either.hell,they got a semblance of class..sometimes....we BOTH know why you're doing this.Remember that in every post...every topic...every time you comment on something...I know YOU and what you're really about.I can just about count on..when YOU give a compliment(which is pretty much NEVER)..you mean exactly the opposite.Your like those Muslim Islamists...or Hitler Youth...or whatever.You smile in our faces here...and curse us inwardly...sometimes...openly.Scumbag.

I think the most serious part of this whole thing...this charade...is that..you are a liar.You can't be trusted.With anything you say...or why you say it.Your real motive here is not to be of help and encouragement...your real goal here and on the other sites that've 'done you wrong'in YOUR mind is payback. You got banned from Bikeland...way back.Instead of accepting that YOU were outta line...that YOU were creating a shitstorm...you underhandedly slipped back in with an alternate e-mail and aka...and not just one...several.You kept a low profile with your language so you could avoid being detected.You weren't doing too badly...no one knew it was you.Until...I showed up over there..talking bikes and 14R's....you couldn't resist starting something over there with me...anyone reading that post topic "why is Eclipse an ass" in the 'smackhouse' section will quickly see the talk is the same...the attitude...the same.It went from "eclipse' to...blue07....you're a fuckin dipshit.You lied here,and there about 'speedgene' being you.Just as you still are.Not for me...but to try and save yer lyin ass here after what I posted over there.You faked your identity there so you could weasel in and find a place to start doing what you 'think' you do best...dissing others.Guys who have an actual passion for riding and owning these badass bikes.Who like to talk about em..and share good things with each other.Loser....remember...I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.ALWAYS.When you speak...I KNOW what you're REALLY about.Fuckin loser at racing..at teching,at life.LOSER.You're pulling the same shit here...you know you are...I know you are.I could go back and post evry topic thread YOU faked as someone else...and show this forum exactly what's been happening.But I won't.It's here..all of it.The fake issues questions.The koo koo postings abour particular problems some 'guys' are 'having.Then you start...bashing me....using your fake 'members' to do it.Every post I've tried to offer genuine help...and YOU have attempted to totally confuse what was being posted by me.....not the OP's weird comments or subjects.

You're game here is done...times up fuckhead.Stay here...but check this out...this whole forum is gonna be on to your bullshit real quick.Yer done here...just like you are there....DONE.Finito.Kaput.The ONLY place you can go over there..is the smackhouse...you can't even leave there because you now know that THEY know...and yer ass in in a wringer if you even TRY to diss others outside of the shithouse...where you belong...the shithouse.Where you are right now...in the shit....all the way in...and it's gonna cover your mouth here shortly.

Having a different aka on a different website is nothing I did it...but I'm not trying to decieve anyone by doing that.....over there...I'm blue07...just as I was here when I had my 07 zx14....in CPB.Same guy...same person...same everything.YOU....you did it because you had to hide....they woulda thrown ya back out if they'd have known you weere tryin to get in behind their backs.Asshole.....fake.liar.That's what you are...and always will be.A loser.getting his way by deciet and lies.NOT by being a standup guy and taking yer lumps when ya deserve em.NOt you...everyone else...but not you.Fuckhead.

ANYONE reading this would naturally say..'geez...GRN's gotta be wrong here..NOBODY would go to these lengths to get some stupid 'payback' for having their feelings hurt'...oh yeah?Think not?This asshole is...and has..and will continue to do...here,and other sites as well.He's created characters for his own twisted plan off revenge.His copying and posting of Gixxerjohn's way of talking...that aint no Gixxerjohn...that's a fabricated guy and this douche has spent and taken the time to study how I talk...and tweak it just enough to not be exact quotes...but he fucked up...some of 'gixxerjohn's" words and phrases came straight off some of MY comments right here.Exact words and phrases.Same ideas flowing through...but tweaked enough to hide what's really happening.He saw I went over there to kick it....and he just couldn't resist.He dragged MY posts and comments over there,when I hadn't said jackshit about anything pertaining to what was being dicussed in the topic.You think it's sci-fi...crazy?Paranoid.I aint paranoid....I don'y give a shit what he does.I just wanted to put this out there for the new guys...the REAL ones...and maybe some older members here.Just so they know who they're dealin with here.It's a game to HUB.Seein if he can continue to pull this off.I'm here to tell everyone...this guy's playin ya...big time.I prtty much had the last word about the trans deal when I said way back..."she shifts awesome'...and he COULDN'T prove otherwise.Me having the 'last' word on that deal...he's never let it go.Sick?Yeah...he is.VERY.And this started way before I got my 14R.Being one up to him and not really being able to dispute what I was saying about my new bike...he couldn't accept it..still can't...that's why he keeps trying to convince everyone here that Grn doesn't know shit...can't wrench...can't ride...can't give a factual account of anything bikes.That's what he's about...'getting back' at someone...anyone who he thinks is got the goods,and shares with others.Plain and simple.He can't go after Danno..Hagrid...the others..ROOK...ROMANS...they know what they know...and they've got the goods to back up what they say.He knows that I aint no dumbfuck yahoo who doesn't know shit about anything.But this forum has a weak spot of NOT backing up it's longtime members or those that actually DO have solid stuff to offer.Not like Bikeland..You go over there..talk shit about one of their longterm guys....yer done.Not so here.People will let some asshole like HUB attack new members...attack other guys here...and not say SHIT about it except"aren't ya being a little hard on em?"..what the fuck is that?WHO the fuck is HUB to be 'hard' on anyone....this aint his forum...aint his website...aint NOTHIN belongs to him here."Better not get HUB mad at ya"...wtf is that?Fuck HUB..and the horse he rode in on.Treat people like shit here...everyone gives his ass a pass and tells the attacked person...aw..just ignore him.Yeah?You try it...see if that stops the BS from being thrown at ya.He don't respect anyone here...he's got everyone eating out of his hand...."I'll fuck up your time here if ya cross me."...scumbag 4 year old.'Better walk the walk or I'll be ON yer ass forever"...FUCK YOU DOUCHEBAG...with a capital D for dicksmoker.

'Chasin the dailies"...YOu fuckin turd.

* Last updated by: Grn14 on 6/13/2012 @ 7:12 AM *

I wish someone would get me up to speed around here , every post gets more confusing , who is doing what to who ???? You guys ramble on about this grn guy

grn is Grn14. Was blue07. Hub and Grn 14 a little hard on each other. At war.

my my my , you really do have a problem, my post was genuine and not connected in anyway shape or form to Hubelton, take me out of the equation you are trying to find the square root of , its all a figment of your imagination, why the fuk would any newbie hang around here when constanly accuse of collusion? cyber internment.
You dont know who I am, if you took the time to ask, I would tell you, but you continue with your futile crusade.
If you believe I am a fake member,put up or shut up, it will bring pleasure to knock the smile of your face,

Take my initial post on its own merits, what the fuk is wrong with it?
its my opinion as to how i am not overly impressed with the feeling of the gearbox, an opinion i am entitled to,and one that i feel is warranted, that is why i posted,no other subversive.NONE

Thanks to you, ,many here probably have their doubts to my existence, thanks a fuking lot,bravo , i hope you feel proud of yourself, id feel ashamed If i treated a stranger with such contempt,and name caling, how articulate of you, but your ramblings make me feel like the better person, so for that, I thank you kindly.

Well I do not give a crap on who is who or what they do but many here will show you how to make a hard job easy and for that I will thank them - no matter who they are or even if they have the FUGLY green bikes. I still want to see if the new wheels off the green ones will fit my 2009.

Now getting to Mr Ivan I have been a supporter of him from the 1st jet kit I put in a 2001 ZRX and a 2003 ZZR1200. His customer support says no email and he will talk directly to you plus he does call you back after closing hours on a Saturday.
The haters of Ivan only wish they could do what he does but then that is just an opinion of a nobody

I am a "PROUD IVAN ZOMBIE"!

I'm not going to go through all of this again, it's been six years since Ivan put the tune on my '06 and it still runs flawlessly, puts a big grin on my face everytime I twist the loud handle.

Ivan is the King of Smooth, he never made any claims to make the most HP or best ETs at a dragstrip. If you want smooth, Ivan delivers...period!

And, to Ivan's Credit the TRE-006A was and is the only thing that stops the backfire and I have tried them all repeatedly. Cheers Guys, Play Nice.

Dam skippy, the TRE006A works, only bike I own that doesn't pop on the over run.

I don't get where all this hate comes from when it comes to Ivan, the guy is straight up and his stuff always delivers more than expected...can't beat that IMHO!

You go Grn, sic 'em...Hub's probably feelin that one this morning. This stuff just keeps gettin better and better, who needs a soap opera when the entertainment right here is first class? Keep it coming guys...Hub you're turn to return fire....yahoo!

Tell'em Professor,

Gather around... Lets get the fresh new members up to date, shall we?
Kruz? You're first. Maybe we can finally have a conversation about 'Smoothing.' I'm making my own mini documentary about discussing bike, the OP, the BOOK, Ivan, the other guy, I forget his name so you need to fill in the blanks, or I'll be here all day.

This way, I'll type in between the lines as it were, so you can read another point is the counter point, is my point or take on the "Smoothing." I need someone to point to the haters when I am standing on this red carpet, embarrassed, proud of Ivan. We have history together here and feels like old times. So, I'm going to embarrass anyone else that would like to point fingers in the air, is now you've read one part between the lines.

I'll let the old guard fill in the proper english so you can follow along. Even the old time lurkers that would rather speak up to that last party. I think I should stop now and have the other members fill you in.

This is for fuellie, motero, any others I've missed... Kruz? Help me here! Make it evolve from the beginning. I'll remember what I remember, you remember what I remember is to remember, I am back to my mini bike snip and delete is some would like me all deleted. That was then, this is now. Now for me to shut up and sit down is to tell myself that one and awhile now is the time....

<<<<<< ^^^^^^^^^

Rick,

I just don't know what else to say.... He needs some clonopin.
I'm sure the county nuthouse (rockland state) has a jacket and a bed for him. :laugh:

The power limiter has been defeated in the lower 3 gears... all done inside the ECU.

When I have all my info up on my website, I'll discuss things further.

Of course Rick, you are welcome to call me on the phone whenever you like. :)

Ivan

Ivan, what do you have for the '09 ZX-6R and '11 ZX-10R? Both are basically stock right now with only slipons. BTW, I liked what your tune did for my '08 ZX-10R.

Hubmeister, smooth is as smooth does, you'd just have to ride one of these after Ivan put the tune to it. I guess the best way to describe it is my '06 has no power curve, immense thrust is available everywhere from idle to redline.....truly a velvet hammer! This is why I cannot get excited about a 14R, I have all I can use now, bike still scares me after six years of riding her. Flipside, my 14 guzzles premium unleaded like an F18 in afterburner....lol!

BTW Hub, I love these threads, almost gave up on this forum but now I'm back! Ivan is always a controversial topic on any forum, the guys that have tried his stuff love him and the guys who haven't, hate his guts....great entertainment!

Hub the guy's legit get off his case!

BTW Hub, I love these threads, almost gave up on this forum but now I'm back! Ivan is always a controversial topic on any forum, the guys that have tried his stuff love him and the guys who haven't, hate his guts....great entertainment!

Well, I'm mr. stocker. I've ridden Dogo's for a few hundred feet or so. I felt that crispy throttle with all the mapping and pipe. Loved it. But, that is your taste, your demand in performance. Ivan owns a tool. I'd be a tool if I did not admit that.

It is like anything else. You go to work, open a toolbox and change parts is parts is all I do. Ivan rolls tires and stops tires all day long. So Ivan is more a specialist and knows hishit. For the history lesson, the documentary of it, I asked the Pee'INN'Ultimate Q and everyone flew!

I forgot to add kennel cough and his two dogs as a newbie. Sorry there, 'where's the treats." So anyway, you guys were more praising his product, I'm asking the ultimate question; I hear silence. Like Danno? Was he the one that said to leave the computer bikes to others? This is his first computer bike? Well, I was away from bikes when carbs were still around.

Then, I decided to try riding again. WATT did I just buy? I went on line and asked the same thing.

Everyone was coming at me.

I then said, look what you look like... No wait. That was Muel#1 I threw away. A homemade backyard me can nick and scrapes and scars and head bang she banged up like totaled. The moment I stood up from that tumble, I...

As far as I recall, there was a marketing website in the beginning we were on? Just like my sig below, in my world, something was not right in the vague of it of whatre was? Something drove me nuts figuring out that bike. I removed all that (((Ivan))) off my bike, [the wire lay], looking for a vague kind of computer question to match something that I still cannot figure out?

And it was not Ivan's fault. Still isn't. He just does not know. I'm looking for something else, has nothing to do with mapping. It is where you open the hood? Look inside? Too 'out of the box thinking' on my part. It is more a fundamental build of the whole computer deal.

I begin to discuss this with my tuner friend, it is more an engineer's question. The designers of the ECU. The secret is the in-houseshit. The hindsight to me says; if you only knew the basics. Again, totally different field that Ivan does. I just pinned the tail on another mule and proceed to match book read. In other words, lots of riding gathering data. That's why the AFR to catch up with Ivan. YEAH RIGHT!

The wires told me a lot. Ivan was my ecu-basics-101 teacher. Something like that. So, you are assuming ass usual [why I hate men]. I've already gave you the red face. EYE said, HE SAID.

My mini doc has Ivan in it, someone else, someone else, more props, on the cuff, no retakes, it is what it is. Real is real. I CAN GO BACK AND IT RUNS IN THE ABSOLUTE IS THE VID.

Universal is DIS vid. You'll see I'm in another website. You'll see the generic 'runner upper' doing the same deal is me doing the same deal. I change characters and it cracks me the fuck up. You should see the phone scene. I just took that prop and made nasty with it. A fucking phone!

It's 2 hours plus. I'm building a bike in the cheap seats. Guy has no money. Saved him $400 bucks doing it the backyard way. Trying to be accurate with a wooden block and a reamer that can ruin the whole procedure. Never again! But I learned. I knew it needed the right tool for this head work. I have experience in that pocket none the less. We never stop learning.

This vid is so universal, everyone is in it. You need to be brought up to date or that vid will mean nothing to you. It is all about a bike forum or a gathering of men. You'll see.

* Last updated by: Hub on 6/14/2012 @ 9:52 AM *