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Thread: Hids

Created on: 07/30/09 03:24 AM

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scottjkyl


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RE: Hids
10/08/09 7:19 AM

thanks juicey i was kinda leaning that direction. might take blues lead and put h9's in all 4 sockets


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RE: Hids
10/08/09 7:31 AM

Scott-no extra harness.Ballast and igniter,and bulb harness.And no-no heat issues with mine at all.There is a "slight" adjustment though when using the h9"s for all four lamps.If I'm not mistaken,the center sockets(low beam sockets)are NOT QUITE the same design as the high beam socket(or it's the bulbs themselves?).The three tabs on your stock bulbs are slightly different between the two.The high beam H9 tabs have to be trimmed just barely on one of the tabs(the long tab),I had to cut just a bit off so the tab would fit securely and rotate in as they're supposed to on the low beam socket.No big deal.Just used some sharp wire cutters and snipped the tab length to be like the others.


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RE: Hids
10/08/09 7:37 AM

thanks blue ordered 35w 10,000k



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RE: Hids
10/08/09 11:10 AM

Just wondering: How might effective light do you lose in going from, say, 6K to 10K?. How much better will I see the road at night if I chose 6K instead of 10K ?

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RE: Hids
10/08/09 3:07 PM

I can say the 10 K will NOT be as bright as your lower K's.It's gonna be way more bluish.I rode with my 6K's at night-ONCE.Unfortunately,they were not correctly adjusted-and I didn't feel comfortable riding here with all the deer and stuff.But mine were extremely bright and white.Had they been adjusted "up" some,they'd have been perfect-VERY wide peripheral shine.And with em adjusted right,the low beams would hit way out in front with plenty of light.No dark areas in front of my bike anywhere.


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RE: Hids
10/08/09 3:56 PM

txs the chart says 6000-8000 is very bright 10000 less bright by how much i dont know id have to think they will still be brighter than halogens plus i dont ride at night so im more after the bluish color. ill take comparison pics and post once i get them



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RE: Hids
10/08/09 4:48 PM

If you guys don't care about seeing the road in front of you, by all means get as high K temp as you wish.
For me, I used the 5k and they are very blue, too blue for my liking but they are as bright as I wanted them to be. I do care about seeing the road so that's why I leaned towards the whitest bulb. Using 10 or 8K is like reducing the light output by half. It's a great cool factor but are people really going to see you better with lower power output of high K bulbs.

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RE: Hids
10/14/09 2:16 PM

well got my hid's from ddm today got them installed of course its still daylight but man those sum bitches will blind ya and they r the 10,000k bulbs. funny the brights were plug and play but the lows the wires were backwards had to switch the pos and neg in the plug.
i mounted 2 of the ballasts up in front of the windscreen like someone else had pictured on here and the other 2 i mounted with the double sided tape to the outside of ram air tubes



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RE: Hids
10/14/09 3:09 PM

Cool Scott-just in time for Halloween!!!!!LOL!!!(lookin good there!)"the fly".Now just add some fangs on there..............


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RE: Hids
10/14/09 6:06 PM

damn wont be no more riding with the brights on at night with on coming traffic...lol if the 10,000k's are this fing bright you guys must be lightin up the city with the 5-6000k's the 10,000k's are making a good 100+ yrds look like daylight. if anyone is second guessin on investing $150 in hids ...dont!!! just get em u wont be dissappointed



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RE: Hids
10/19/09 6:31 AM

I just ordered two of the 55w 5k sets! I can't wait. Now I'm looking for some good cold weather gloves...



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RE: Hids
10/19/09 6:40 AM

Since I just bought the new system I was wondering, with HIDs in both the high and low beams what is the optimal beam adjustment. is it two or three rotations of the set screw? I understand that the high and low beams are controlled from the same screw and can't be independantly adjusted?



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RE: Hids
10/19/09 9:33 AM

Cold weather gloves-you might go with a heated pair.I bought a set of Liners and the temp controller,and pigtail-$169.00 for all-"CozyWinters.com" As good as Gerbings.I bought the liners(med).They're snug,but not too tight.If you have a LARGE hand,go with the large size.With the liners,you can wear with any "large"glove.Very nice.Gerbings are like $200.00+ dollars.As far as headlamp adjustment-they will have to come up on both sides some.And the center bolts for the horizontal I would recommend going "out"some on both sides.You'll only get a true look-see at where they're actually lighting at night on the road.It will be difficult to adjust just lining up on your garage wall or something like that.They're going to be quite BRIGHT at night-way different than your stockers.The hi/low bulbs will not move independantly-no.

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RE: Hids
10/19/09 11:55 AM

sam im up 3 turns ....perfect



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RE: Hids
10/19/09 3:06 PM

Thanks alot fellas I'm not even goin to mess with them until I get the HIDs in. Thanks blue I appreciate the info on the heated gloves I didn't think they would be that expensive! I just ordered a thermo suit for $143, oh well gotta pay to play.



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RE: Hids
10/19/09 3:11 PM

Ok after reviewing this thread what is the advantage of having all H9's?



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RE: Hids
10/19/09 4:08 PM

Well, just ordered two 55W sets of 6K temp for the hi & low beams. Hopefully they will arrive within the week. When I get them installed, I'll post the pics..

Thanks for everyones' advice on this.

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RE: Hids
10/21/09 4:21 AM

ok was able to get the bike out finally for the last 2 days (since installing HID's) and put some miles on her. for those of you that like the bluer hid's but are afraid the 10,000k's wont be bright enough, i am here to tell you yes they are bright enough when you have cagers flashing thier brights at ou on bright sunny days cause your blinding them i'd say they must be bright and they definatley know your there....lol



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RE: Hids
10/22/09 4:25 PM

Ok..got my HID's in today from DDM. I ordered two kits for both high and low beams (h9 & h11). But now, I can't figure out which is which! All bulbs look exactly the same and can find no markings on any of them that indicate bulb type. So...how do I tell which set is h9 and which is h11?

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RE: Hids
10/22/09 5:58 PM

They should be separated into two boxes.One HIGH,one LOW(in the same box if I recall correctly).It will say on the inner box which bulb it is.Then-your H9's are High beam-they go on the outer sockets.DO NOT TOUCH THE GLASS AT ALL.And when you first fire them up-allow them to stay on at least 3 or 4 minutes.Use care when installing those bad boys-you don't want to CRACK the "plug" going into the actual lamp by twisting TOO HARD.(the two wires in the little plastic black thingy).Put it in there(don't scratch the glass on the metal lens socket)and gently turn until you feel it "catch".Then you can just give er a reverse little try and make sure she's not in there loose.It should kinda "click"(but not really a click)when it seats all the way turned in.You'll feel it catch.DON'T TURN ANY FURTHER!!


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RE: Hids
10/22/09 6:39 PM

Eeek! I've already taken both sets out of the boxes to prepare for the installation and I have no idea which ones came from which box. Is there any way to tell by looking at the bulbs? I can't find any identifying marks on the bulbs whatsoever.

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RE: Hids
10/23/09 12:33 AM

Do your bulbs have a BLUE and RED wire coming off of them?If so,there SHOULD be a label attached to the one wire telling you what it is.Also a PLASTIC SOCKET FITTING,with METAL TABS on it.Is yours like that?Both bulbs of the same "type"(say,h9)should have the label on the wire.Don't know about the H11.Probably the same deal.


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RE: Hids
10/23/09 7:02 AM

lol txspike i did the same thing but i did keep them seperate was just about to call ddm when i found the sticker on the small boxes. something to keep in mind my brights were plug and play the lows however i had to switch the wires around that plug into the factory harness



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RE: Hids
10/23/09 8:06 AM

Dis is crazy.

The wires have no labels attached indicating what the bulb type is. Also, I've reviewed the DDM tuning bulb guide at https://www.ddmtuning.com/content/techtips/bulbguide_low.pdf and even from their pictures the H9 and H11 look identical. Perhaps a dimple here, a spot there is different but they look the same. By looking very closely at the bulbs, one of the sets looks like (maybe?) the filament is a teensy bit wider than the other on but, again, it's hard to tell. If that's the only way to tell the difference is it safe to assume that the one with the wider filaments are the hi's?

I may have to call DDM on this one...

I feel like an idiot now for taking them out of their boxes the way I did, but when I took them out, I didn't notice any of the markings on the boxes...

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RE: Hids
10/23/09 8:30 AM

You would think that they would at least label the bulbs. Maybe the thicker element is the highs; they are supposed to be 60 watts rather than the lows at 55 watts.
You really can not confirm anything with them, even the temp range.

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